Question UCGO Support

[DoyleChris]

I got the Deltaglider IV into orbit and docked to the Arrow and im head for the moon and i have a couple of questions.

In the deltaglider when it docks is there a way to transfer the crew to the arrow instead of a eva, there is a way of shuting down the deltaglider and make it act like the crew is on the mother ship but they dont show up on the crew list on the arrow.

Next what is the best way to get cargo to the arrow in orbit above earth, i had 4 containers on the delta glider to start but it would take alot of trips to earth to fill arrow up.

Next what is the best way (without the scenario editor) to transfer cargo to the arrow from deltaglider, what i did is get the delta glider close realesed the cargo towards the arrow and grappeled them with it. is there a way to add a external docking port to keep the glider close to the cargo area without it drifting away, and or a grapple arm like the ssrms on the station or rms on the shuttle.

 

[jinglesassy]

yes its possible to board the mothership make sure the engines are off and everythings off except the main or backup life support and external power on and apu off and press apu to go back into internal command

 

[gattispilot]

poorly designed mesh

How do I fix this message about poorly designed mesh. I have gathered all material parts. Not sure what else I can do. I have even added a crew driver to this. I may just make this a regular vessel

 

[Notebook]

This seems the most apt place to ask this, how do I print the ""§" character from the keyboard?
Been reading the .scn files from Dan's excellent add-on, and its used a lot. Did the usual searches, but didn't get much help.

thanks, N.

 

[astrosammy]

I just have to press SHIFT+3, but it's a german keyboard.

 

[Lucy]

Hold down ALT and press "2", then "1" on the numeric keypad, then release ALT.

http://www.alt-codes.net/

 

[Notebook]

Thanks Xyon, works for me!

astrosammy, old english keyboard in all senses..

Thanks folks, N.

 

[Notebook]

Saving waypoints : UCGO

I've read all the manuals, and serched the foru, but I can't find anythng about saving waypoints.

I can make a path for a vehicle, and it workks. Not there when I re-enter the scenario.

I'm obviously missing something obvious...

Anyone ideas?

N.

 

[garyw]

I can make a path for a vehicle, and it workks. Not there when I re-enter the scenario..

Which version of Orbiter?

 

[Notebook]

Ah, good point garyw, this is on Orbiter 2010.

Just to clarify a bit...

This may be related, but If I add UCGO car chrys to my scenario, I can't make it the focus vehicle. I can switch focus to it and it works fine.
However if I run the (Current state.scn) immediately after exiting, that scenario does a CTD.

I haven't pursued this, I'm more intersted with waypoints and paths at the moment, so could be a red-herring?



N.

 

[garyw]

Possibly. It's interesting though because I've noticed a tendancy for orbiter 2010 to not save UCGO cargo states correctly so I'm wondering if it's also not saving waypoint states properly. I know it works in 2006 which is why I was curious about the version number.

 

[Notebook]

Ok, I'll do the same in 2006 and see what happens, thanks, N.

---------- Post added at 09:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 PM ----------

Had a play and got this so far:

this is the .scn file I'm using

BEGIN_DESC
Contains the latest simulation state.
END_DESC
BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System MySol
  Date MJD 55347.5028950023
END_ENVIRONMENT
BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship Chrys
END_FOCUS
BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET Chrys
  MODE Extern
  POS 7.90 -6.26 -22.18
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 60.00
END_CAMERA
 
BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Surface
  SPDMODE 1
END_MFD
BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Map
  REF Earth
  BTARGET ImpactPoint
  OTARGET ISS
  TRACK ON
END_MFD
 
BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 2301886.74 5956422.01 -2127127.29
  RVEL 7093.077 -2941.149 -544.295
  AROT 30.00 -0.00 50.00
  IDS 0:588 10 1:586 10 2:584 10 3:582 10 4:580 10
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 466
END
Mir
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -4524122.12 299515.86 4897041.03
  RVEL -5682.652 -319.618 -5225.708
  AROT 0.00 -45.00 90.00
  IDS 0:540 10 1:542 10 2:544 10
  XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS 2059014.28 876937.04 8.71
  RVEL -579.972 1361.747 0.009
  AROT 0.00 0.00 105.62
  VROT 0.00 0.00 10.00
  IDS 0:560 10 1:564 10
  XPDR 494
END
GL-01:DeltaGlider
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -0.9634430 51.8427710
  HEADING 300.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  GEAR 1 1.0000
END
ShuttleA:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Westcott:18
  HEADING 321
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
END
ShuttlePB:ShuttlePB
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Westcott:20
  HEADING 300.00
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Chrys:UCGO\Cars\CarChrysler
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 1269216.12 3113180.57 5411744.48
  RVEL -260.282 -27.146 76.560
  AROT 130.39 -41.82 164.50
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  UMMUCREW Sec-Tom-58-70-70
  AIInFonction 1
  CurrentWpt 1
  EngineStarted 1.0000000000
  SAVEVAR00 0§-0.9635880665,1§51.8426939475,2§0,3§-0.9660549677,4§51.8437001381,5§0,6§-0.9670825093,7§51.8438462293,8§0,9§-0.9672075234,10§51.8424250156,11§0,12§-0.9670331637,13§51.8416734088,14§0,15§-0.9662070127,
  SAVEVAR01 16§51.8414667970,17§0,18§-0.9636426838,19§51.8423306372,20§0,23§0,26§0,29§0,32§0,35§0,38§0,41§0,44§0,47§0,50§0,53§0,56§0,59§0,200§7,301§0,400§1,401§1,403§1,405§1,407§1,
END
END_SHIPS

I made a little triangular circuit with the waypint edit mode, and it looks like this in Orbiter 2006p1:
http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/Notebook_04/?action=view&current=newfile.mp4

Works as I'd expect it.

Tried that same scenario in Orbiter 2010 and got a CTD with a brief frame of the UCGO:chrys, but no DG?
This is the log file

**** Orbiter.log
Build Jun  6 2010 [v.100606]
Timer precision: 2.79365e-007 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Devices enumerated: 6
Devices accepted: 5
==> RGB Emulation
==> Direct3D HAL
==> Direct3D T&L HAL
==> Direct3D HAL (NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT )
==> Direct3D T&L HAL (NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT )
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module ScreenCapture.dll ..... [Build ******, API 060425]
**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1440 x 900 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Loading 8816 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100606, API 100606]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100217, API 100215]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Finished initialising world
Module DeltaGlider.dll ....... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module LuaInline.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module ShuttleA.dll .......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module ShuttlePB.dll ......... [Build 100606, API 100606]
Module UCGOCars.dll .......... [Build ******, API 060425]
Finished initialising status
Finished initialising camera
Finished initialising panels
Finished setting up render state

MySol.cfg is just Sol.cfg with everything past the Moon deleted to save loading times when developing.

N.

---------- Post added 06-12-10 at 11:23 AM ---------- Previous post was 06-11-10 at 09:26 PM ----------

Some more info:

This scenario was made and edited and saved in Orbiter 2010, works in XP SP3 and Vista Home SP1. If another vessel has focus at start-up, it seems fine.

BEGIN_DESC
END_DESC
BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System MySol
  Date MJD 55347.5198657697
END_ENVIRONMENT
BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship GL-01
END_FOCUS
BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET Chrys
  MODE Extern
  POS 43.74 5.20 -21.46
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 60.00
END_CAMERA
BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD
BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL
BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 5922999.51 -3188017.71 -247901.49
  RVEL -3368.883 -6462.856 2476.806
  AROT 30.00 0.00 50.00
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:588 100 1:586 100 2:584 100 3:582 100 4:580 100
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 466
END
Mir:Mir
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -4296540.13 -311744.71 -5096980.31
  RVEL 5914.774 -303.532 -4962.697
  AROT 0.00 -45.00 90.00
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
  XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS 441161.16 2194052.98 5.49
  RVEL -1451.076 291.750 -0.010
  AROT -0.00 -0.00 7.76
  VROT 0.00 0.00 10.00
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
  XPDR 494
END
GL-01:DeltaGlider
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -0.9634430 51.8427710
  HEADING 300.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
  XPDR 0
  GEAR 1 1.0000
  AAP 0:0 0:0 0:0
END
ShuttleA:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Westcott:18
  POS -0.9612098 51.8452760
  HEADING 321.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
END
ShuttlePB:ShuttlePB
  STATUS Landed Earth
  BASE Westcott:20
  POS -0.9717058 51.8441249
  HEADING 300.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Chrys:UCGO\Cars\CarChrysler
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 1050442.72 3085860.01 5473921.75
  RVEL -258.219 -16.168 58.567
  AROT 129.30 -45.77 166.33
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  UMMUCREW Sec-Tom-58-70-70
  AIInFonction 1
  CurrentWpt 1
  EngineStarted 1.0000000000
  SAVEVAR00 0§-0.9635790000,1§51.8426670000,2§0,3§-0.9787100000,4§51.8483050000,5§0,6§-0.9817170000,7§51.8456640000,8§0,9§-0.9812750000,10§51.8452130000,11§0,12§-0.9623720000,13§51.8523730000,14§0,15§-0.9629410000,
  SAVEVAR01 16§51.8528250000,17§0,18§-0.9692250000,19§51.8524900000,20§0,21§-0.9668800000,22§51.8414580000,23§0,24§-0.9661900000,25§51.8414380000,26§0,27§-0.9635200000,28§51.8424380000,29§0,32§0,35§0,38§0,41§0,44§0,
  SAVEVAR02 47§0,50§0,53§0,56§0,59§0,200§10,301§0,400§1,401§1,403§1,405§1,407§1,
END
END_SHIPS

N.

 

[Notebook]

Just for update and info.
The waypoint saves fine now, so I'm assuming it was just a learing curve for me.
AI vehicle won't accept focus at startup, but thinking about it, why would you do that? I did it because I was making waypoints, but its not a problem to switch focus to the vehicle you want, so I'll forget that "problem"

Here's a video of a collection of vehicles running around the Newcastle Airport base:

http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/Notebook_04/?action=view&current=UCGO_1.mp4

The frame rate is better than shown, double that. Presume the frame grabber is stealing proccessor time?

N.