News Intel up the Ante.............again!!!

[Screamer]

It looks like Intel up the ante once again. AMD Bulldozer plans just get boomeranged. AMD is Bulldozed!!!! :rofl:

Just a joke. I hope AMD can get something really good really fast, otherwise we the consumers will pay.
Here’s a link.......
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-22nm-3-d-tri-gate-ivy-bridge,12700.html

Enjoy.

 

[Urwumpe]

Intel and fast? Only by the clock rates or by the time it takes to warm your house by the loss heat of your computer. Performance-wise, AMDs have so far always been nicer, but also had for some time trouble with hardware compatibility.

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But since AMD and Intel exchange patents, the performance differences between their processors became pretty low. I like AMD more for its general purpose speeds, but the bigger Intel pipeline is nicer for some math stuff. Sadly you rarely do such math on a single core - and in multicore scenarios, AMD had been sweeter so far.

(BTW... the vertical transistor concept is already from 2009, they just finished the first experimental chip in 22nm tech this year - but they still have no fab for 22nm mass production.)

 

[Screamer]

Intel and fast? Only by the clock rates or by the time it takes to warm your house by the loss heat of your computer. Performance-wise, AMDs have so far always been nicer, but also had for some time trouble with hardware compatibility.

---------- Post added 05-05-11 at 12:00 AM ---------- Previous post was 05-04-11 at 11:57 PM ----------

But since AMD and Intel exchange patents, the performance differences between their processors became pretty low. I like AMD more for its general purpose speeds, but the bigger Intel pipeline is nicer for some math stuff. Sadly you rarely do such math on a single core - and in multicore scenarios, AMD had been sweeter so far.

(BTW... the vertical transistor concept is already from 2009, they just finished the first experimental chip in 22nm tech this year - but they still have no fab for 22nm mass production.)

Hmmmm. So Intel is on the hype bandwagon again?
And that means maybe a new socket for the processor? In that matter Intel is not very nice. Changing their socket pins and layout in such a short time. LGA1156 to LGA1155. That mean a NEW motherboard. THAT is not nice from Intel!!!:facepalm:

 

[Urwumpe]

Well, since you also need new Northbridges for different CPUs, sure better than having to know what you can buy

 

[Capt_hensley]

They got the limitless bus thing right(about time) but now they need to drop all the other dependencies, a board is a board, if all your peripherals are plug in. Less integration, more modularity. Like the good old days of XT. All you need is one over engineered high power bus.

Until something solid is released, I'll stick to getting the I9 next, it's tangible, this 22nm chip, has yet to take shape in a product.

"if the electron is really the fastest thing we have, then why is my computer so slow?"

To be honest I want my Cray desktop, flying car, and a smart home that can read my mind. How come I'm not wet wired yet? I still cant get a toilet paper that's soft, yet wont fall apart in my hands. How do you use the three sea shells?

 

[Hielor]

Until something solid is released, I'll stick to getting the I9 next, it's tangible, this 22nm chip, has yet to take shape in a product.

I9? Tangible? You mean the i7 980X?

Waste of money at this point. The Sandy Bridge 2600K outperforms it at a third the price.

 

[Zachstar]

What is interesting to me personally is the claims of over 50 percent reduced power draw for lower speed operations.

I don't really suspect a true 30 percent increase in performance on the high end but for things like laptops and of course the Intel Atom. Half the power for same or better performance is by far more important in the long run for competing against ARM based systems.

AMD can't compete against that. So to compensate I expect Intel to price these VERY high to allow AMD room to breathe. Intel would rather lose some market share to high prices than pay AMD another huge glut of funds and more patents traded.

To fight back in my opinion AMD MUST focus on getting Fusion products faster and cooler and do it quickly.

 

[Keatah]

Intel and fast? Only by the clock rates or by the time it takes to warm your house by the loss heat of your computer. Performance-wise, AMDs have so far always been nicer, but also had for some time trouble with hardware compatibility.

As far as I can remember back to the 90's, there have been always been hardware compatibility issues with the chipsets used in AMD based systems. There was always some sort of hang-up. Could be something as small and esoteric a thing like a sound buffer glitch when using a certain codec, for example.