Request Runways at Olympus (5 Posts Down)

[R8-Q88]

I am TERRIBLE at making just about anything for Orbiter (trust me, I tried. It looked like someone had blown it up, duct taped it back together, then threw paint all over it.) I am constantly working on my skills, but I just can't get coordinates right. So, could someone put two runways at brighton that wouldn't conflict with [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4806"]A Different Brighton Beach[/ame] and it's update, [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=4821"]A Different Brighton Beach Update[/ame]. Thanks in advance.

 

[Eli13]

Just saying, the best way to land on the moon is VTOL style.

 

[R8-Q88]

Just saying, the best way to land on the moon is VTOL style.

Wow, that was fast. I was just thinking fuel consumption. Wouldn't it be more economic to land horisontally using your brakes, than using up gallons of useful fuel landing VTOL style? Also, many ships don't have VTOL thrusters, so they could never land that way.

 

[Eli13]

I suppose, but most, if not every ship I've seen made to land on the moon (fictional and real) have had VTOL thrusters. It's possible to land 'normally' but not as practical due to the lack of an atmosphere, thus, no air resistance. It would have to be pretty perfectly executed to land like that.

 

[R8-Q88]

I suppose, but most, if not every ship I've seen made to land on the moon (fictional and real) have had VTOL thrusters. It's possible to land 'normally' but not as practical due to the lack of an atmosphere, thus, no air resistance. It would have to be pretty perfectly executed to land like that.

I suppose you're right, let me change the thread real quick.

 

[Eli13]

Sorry to put down the idea. I've had the same idea, but then I started to think about it. You saw my thought process there.

 

[R8-Q88]

Ok, here is a more practical request. Two runways at Olympus Spaceport on Mars. I would only need the lines to put in my Olympus.cfg file, not the whole file.
EDIT: Could they not conflict with the runway included in these surface tiles: [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5229"]Olympus Base Enchancement- new surftiles[/ame]

 

[Eli13]

[ame="http://orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=3252"]this[/ame]
and
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5229"]this[/ame]
should add two airstrips.

 

[R8-Q88]

Already have those. I was looking for a generic runway on the other side of the runway included in those surface tiles.

 

[Eli13]

Oh, then I'm of no more help here. Good luck!

 

[ky]

I just though of an idea:making a base on mercury or the moon with runways.

 

[Tex]

You can't really land on a runway with no atmosphere. You'd still need hover thrusters to control your descent after doing the de-orbit burn. Doing a proper roll out on a runway seems way too impractical (almost impossible) and even if you could hit the runway without crashing, in reality, your tires would probably burst or you might rip the landing gear off because you'd still be going close to orbital speeds without burning retrograde prior to touching down.

Also, while Mars has an atmosphere, it is way too thin to land on a runway with something like the delta glider. You'd need much larger wings to work in that thin air in order to benefit from the atmosphere enough to do a proper landing pattern. Additionally, approach speeds for a runway landing on Mars would be crazy fast so the thinner air is rammed over the wings efficiently enough to generate lift.

Just my :2cents:

 

[Eli13]

again, the moon has no atmosphere, and gravity alone would not be good for landing on the moon, and mercury may have a very very slim atmosphere, but there would be absolutely no drag air resistance what ever you want to call it.

EDIT: Thanks Tex i was about to say the same thing.

 

[ky]

I didnt read the earlier comments so thanks for correcting my mistake.

 

[R8-Q88]

Also, while Mars has an atmosphere, it is way too thin to land on a runway with something like the delta glider. You'd need much larger wings to work in that thin air in order to benefit from the atmosphere enough to do a proper landing pattern. Additionally, approach speeds for a runway landing on Mars would be crazy fast so the thinner air is rammed over the wings efficiently enough to generate lift.

I was thinking larger delta-glider like ships to use the runway, such as the G42, G42-200, Resolve, DG-EX, etc. Woo492's UMMU plane needs a runway too, and it sure works on Mars. Plus, runways make good eye candy.

 

[Eli13]

The g42 and G42-200 only have the capability to reach LEO. Mars has a lower atmospheric pressure than Earths so flying even the UMMU plane takes skill. Mars is not the best place for atmospheric flight.

 

[Hielor]

This thread had a rather long discussion about technical reasons why runways on the moon are a terrible idea:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=8154

 

[Cairan]

Titan is the best place for atmospheric maneuvers. Low gravity and high density atmosphere yields spectacular slow-motion maneuvers! It still takes skill as the low velocities can yield a false sense of safety when you're lining up a big, heavy bird, but you still carry the same -inertia- with a 150 tons spaceplane on Titan than on Earth, gravity just makes the acceleration towards the ground much slower on Titan and the dense atmosphere provides generous lift at slow speeds. Still, you have to flare in a totally different fashion. I love landing on Titan horizontally!

 

[luki1997a]

Don't worry about runways. Maybe I will make second one for my surftiles. I was making real runway on olympus(in Olympus.cfg) which fits my surftiles. Maybe I'll make new surftile and airport like on a wideawake. There's no a lot of work(just 30 mins). I don't know if can I add buildings to base. It's made by it's author and you know.. I don't know if I can i edit this base file without premission, but wait few hours:thumbup:

 

[Eli13]

And you did.
There you go R8-Q88!