Question Sts guidance MFD

[Constellation-75]

Hi, of you have the STS expansion pack from Davis 413, you probably knows the Sts guidance MFD. It's a very simple autopilot (for noobs like me) who does all the rendezvous maneuvers automaticly until the vessel is close the ISS.

I love it. But it dosn't work under Orbiter 2010. It's sad because now, I can't go to the ISS anymore !!!!

Did someone knows if a Orbiter 2010 version of the STS expantion pack exists, so I could get a working Sts guidence MFD for 2010 ???? (For the missions I use thorton's ISS witch includes a lot of missions and is so wonderful !!!)

Or did someone know if there is a rendez-vous autopilot who does almost everything (the orbit sync, the approach, the autoburns etc (like IMDF but for orbital rendez vous????)

Thanks in advance....

 

[Wonderer]

There is a shuttle fleet for orbiter 2010, but STS guidance mfd is not part of the fleet, it was created seperatly.Sadly STS guidance mfd hasn't been updated for a long time, probably the creator of it is no longer making addons. Also there is no other mfd that could replace STS guidance mfd.But think of the bright side, now you can try to do it manualy and trust me it is a great feeling to rendezavou and dock to the ISS with the shuttle manualy.

P.s My english is indeed broken.

 

[Izack]

Lacking STS Guidance MFD, you could use the default SyncOrbit and Docking instruments if all else fails. TransX and IMFD can assist with intercept, as well.

Alternatively, you could stick with Orbiter 2006. If you don't have it anymore, you can still download it from Orbit-Hangar HERE.

 

[Constellation-75]

The problem is , cebause if all the enhancements of the 2010 version, it will be hard to me to return to 2006. I defenitly love the new STS fleet, the night lights on others vessels, the HD eatrh etc...

That's too bad there isn't an autopilot for the rendez vous. I mean, in the real life, the Space shuttle uses an autopilot for these exptremely precise manuvers...

What I like in a flight is the docking procedure, the approach, the EVA's, using the canadarm etc. Not trying to bring the shuttle to its destination while making a lots of maths to so it properly....

Well, that's too bad, but no big deal. perhaps somebody will update the STS guidance one day, or create another autopilot... For now, I can say goodbye to all the missions that require a rendezvous.... And focusing more on the Apollo missions and others interplanetary flights....

 

[Izack]

No great mathematical skill is required to rendezvous. So long as you can read the numbers your instruments give you, and use thrusters to adjust them (usually from an initial value to zero,) you'll be fine. You can even just try to emulate what the autopilot does and get reasonable results, with some practise.

Just about anyone here will recommend you to Go Play in Space to learn these things for yourself (it's really not that hard.) Specifically, read Chapter 5 "Dancing in the Dark: Rendezvous and Docking."

Trust me: Orbiter gets much more fun when you can do these things yourself. There's no challenge to letting the autopilot do everything for you!

Cheers, and happy orbiting.

 

[tblaxland]

Lacking STS Guidance MFD, you could use the default SyncOrbit and Docking instruments if all else fails. TransX and IMFD can assist with intercept, as well.

As can [ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=1199"]Rendezvous MFD 050621[/ame]

 

[JonnyBGoode]

I'm guessing soyuz guidance mfd doesn't work either...

I usually use AlignMFD and SyncMFD to get in the ballpark, and then AttitudeMFD on approach.

Not really too hard... though for the Soyuz it can be a challenge if you end up with an overly-large DTmin (which I often do - if there's a better, more fuel efficient way, I'd love to hear about it...).

 

[Constellation-75]

Shure, it's a very wondeful satisfaction when you bring the shuttle manually to its target,n but it's also a very awful frustration when you missed the target because of a wrong burn during the process....

For now, I'm back on Apollo. I'll see in the future for the space rendez vous again. Too bad, cause I discovered thorton's ISS a few days ago, and I really wanted to perform some docking with Camera MFD (if it works) and the soyuz..... This ISS is so wonderful, but it's gonna be for an other time....

 

[Revolpathon]

i learned how to align plane's and sync orbit's and docking with the iss from Tex's video tutorial using the dg4, the only difference being is that the ssme's are at a 15 degree angle which you have to take into acount during your burns (so not keeping the prograde AP on but only using it to get you pointed roughly and then add a 15 degree relative nose up pitch for your burns) and the docking port is located topside, but after 3 or 4 dockings you should be used to it, i find that when i dock a spacecraft i never look out the windows but keep my eyes on the docking mfd only, it tells you all you need to know.

basicly everything that tex has explained in his dg4 to iss tutorial is applicable to the shuttle as long as you keep the 15 degree angle of the ssme's in mind