Problem Orbiter and Vista64, am i alone?

[Erupter]

I did a search about vista, but came up empty.
No one ever experiencing problems?
My just downloaded orbiter (latest beta from sourceforge) does not start.
The lunchpad is ok, but whatever scenario a lunch, it crashes with a msvcr80.dll error.
Now could anyone help me track it down?
I have a number of games giving me problems (mass effect does not work on any windows vista pc i tried it, nadeco trackmania nations forever does not start on vista64, is ok on vista32) but at least orbiter has a decent log and community behind.
Hope somebody wishes to help


Here is windows log of the error:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    BEX
  Application Name:    Orbiter.exe
  Application Version:    0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:    4918d5d2
  Fault Module Name:    MSVCR80.dll
  Fault Module Version:    8.0.50727.1434
  Fault Module Timestamp:    4757746d
  Exception Offset:    00045d67
  Exception Code:    c000000d
  Exception Data:    00000000
  OS Version:    6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
  Locale ID:    1040
  Additional Information 1:    4820
  Additional Information 2:    5689878d74005c214e4797f0cf80a732
  Additional Information 3:    988b
  Additional Information 4:    65fac0e3ce01023ae929fc6121e5c504

 

[RangerPL]

The latest beta on sourceforge is not what we normally use. The latest stable release is build 06929, that can be found here: http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/download.html
That is the most used version.

As for the Vista problems, I cannot say much as I do not have Vista, nor do I have much knowledge in this field. Vista has a number of compatibility/stability issues, many of which were fixed in Service Pack 1.
That's all I really know.

 

[Erupter]

The latest beta on sourceforge is not what we normally use. The latest stable release is build 06929, that can be found here: http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/download.html
That is the most used version.

As for the Vista problems, I cannot say much as I do not have Vista, nor do I have much knowledge in this field. Vista has a number of compatibility/stability issues, many of which were fixed in Service Pack 1.
That's all I really know.

Well i'll try the std version, but as in 2006 vista was in fact not around, and 64 bit systems even less, i though a more recent beta would do the job.

Btw i disabled UAC, given administrator privileges and set up compatibility mode all to no avail.

 

[RangerPL]

Yeah I know about that. I'll try to find some articles on fixing it, as you are definitely not alone.

I strongly recommend orbiter 06929 as that is the version with most addons and support.

 

[Hielor]

Read through this thread:
http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=4724&highlight=msvcr80.dll

 

[Zatnikitelman]

Just so you know, I run Orbiter on Vista 64 bit Ultimate all the time out of the box and on a laptop with embedded graphics and have no problems. So it's not just a Vista problem, there's something specific with your system if you can't run it.
What exactly do you do when you extract Orbiter? Be specific.

 

[Stormlordalpha]

Hello!
When I port my Orbiter Installation (Really Big with allmost all Bases, Planets and Ships available) from my old XP Laptop to my new Vista Laptop, I got only problems with a few .dll errors. If I remember correct it was msvcp70 or msvcr70 ??? It makes CTD too. But after downloading the missing .dlls and installing them just im my Orbiter folder, all works well.
One off these was related to BurntimcalcMFD. The other, if I am correct, to Orbiter in General. But as was said before I use also Orbiter 060929 on Vista Home Basic.

 

[Jarvitä]

I've moved my 4Gb Orbiter install from XP SP3 to Vista Ultimate 64 without any trouble besides the screen flashing bug, which can be worked around by shutting down the Vista sidebar and minimising programs that are running on secondary monitors.

 

[Erupter]

Ok i'm giving a try to the 060929. I'll let you know. Thank you to all :speakcool:


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Ok i'm giving a try to the 060929. I'll let you know. Thank you to all :speakcool:

Ok this version works.
But it crashes if i download the L11 earth.
probably it was not supported by 2006 version?

 

[Hielor]

Ok this version works.
But it crashes if i download the L11 earth.
probably it was not supported by 2006 version?

That is correct. The 2006p1 version only supports up to L10 textures.

 

[n122vu]

Sorry to bump-jack this thread, but I am also having issues with my recent upgrade to Vista Ultimate x64. I can run Orbiter, but after switching views, there is no atmosphere shown, only cloud layer and stars even during the day. Also, Orbit MFD shows Earth's gravity influence at 0.00 in yellow. I don't get any error messages, only these anomalies. I ran into the same issues when testing on the first Windows7 32-bit Beta on a test laptop at work before reinstalling XP.

Any thoughts?

 

[dbeachy1]

The problem is not Vista-related, it's because you need to install the MSVC++ runtime DLLs that Orbiter needs. Details in this thread (check out the last post by Scrooge): http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=6012

 

[n122vu]

Please, let's stay on-topic here, guys -- let's save the OS wars for the 'PC Mega Thread'.

n122vu, the problem is not Vista-related, it's because you need to install the MSVC++ runtime DLLs that Orbiter needs. Details in this thread (check out the last post by Scrooge): http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=6012

Thanks Doug. I'll give that a try this evening.

**EDIT***
Still no dice. I placed both files in the Windows\System32 folder, and even tried a reboot. I have blue sky to begin with in the cockpit but when I change views the atmosphere disappears and when I go back to the cockpit OrbitMFD shows gravity of 0.00 in yellow. Has anyone else seen this issue & found a fix for it?

---------- Post added at 09:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------

Ideas?

 

[Hielor]

Thanks Doug. I'll give that a try this evening.

**EDIT***
Still no dice. I placed both files in the Windows\System32 folder, and even tried a reboot. I have blue sky to begin with in the cockpit but when I change views the atmosphere disappears and when I go back to the cockpit OrbitMFD shows gravity of 0.00 in yellow. Has anyone else seen this issue & found a fix for it?

---------- Post added at 09:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------

Ideas?

Try putting them also in C:\Windows\SysWOW64

 

[dbeachy1]

You can also try putting the DLLs in the main Orbiter folder (e.g., C:\Orbiter) alongside orbiter.exe. As long as Orbiter can find those DLLs it should work fine.

 

[n122vu]

You can also try putting the DLLs in the main Orbiter folder (e.g., C:\Orbiter) alongside orbiter.exe. As long as Orbiter can find those DLLs it should work fine.

That did the trick.

Thanks Doug!

(And thanks for the XR vessel series. Awesome addons!)

 

[V8Li]

The OS checks for DLLs in the system folder first and then in the folder that's containing the exe that called them. It would be better to place them in the system folder since you might get similar errors with other programs.

 

[n122vu]

The OS checks for DLLs in the system folder first and then in the folder that's containing the exe that called them. It would be better to place them in the system folder since you might get similar errors with other programs.

Thanks for the tip. Just to be safe, I now have both files in all three places.
C:\Windows\System32
C:\OrbiterSTS
C:\Windows\SysWOW64 (which already had a copy of msvcp71.dll)

Thanks guys for the help!

Regards,
n122vu