I think I can make 2+2 = 5, it's so cool! Possible proof offered:

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If you only think of bi-symmetry, 2+2 = 5, simply does not make sense.
If you think of tri-symmetry, what I hypothesize is the real symmetry of the universe, then it makes sense. ;)

An expression by itself, is just a fraction, self/self or self/1. It's the basic rules of fractions. Well, just make both sides self/self, well something divided by itself must be 1, right?

When you opened up that thread, YOU KNEW that 2+2 did not equal 5. YOU WERE ARROGANT. Arrogance is presuming to know the truth, based upon insufficient information. The insufficient information in this case, was presuming to know that the only kind of mathematical symmetry is bi-symmetry.

x ≠ y
x/x = 1/1 = 1 = 1/1 = y/y

I'm not saying this to be mean to you or arrogant myself. I'm saying this to you to teach you a lesson. You do not always know everything. I don't know all the answers, but you don't either. None of us have perfect information, unless we experience something first hand. And I'd say it's impossible to experience everything first hand.

Math is just logic, so I can prove something like that to you, because it is proof in itself. When someone says something with math, then it's first hand, all that's there is logic. Not statements of evidence, or first hand evidence.

I think that's sort of like Pascal's triangle:
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Only, you don't have to have directly adjacent values, they can be any two values. I'm not 100% sure on that, and I'm going to have to think more about it myself.

What do you guys think about this? That through my method any two things can be made equal?
 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
 
When you opened up that thread, YOU KNEW that 2+2 did not equal 5. YOU WERE ARROGANT.

And what does that make you?

What do you guys think about this? That through my method any two things can be made equal?

That you shouldn't quit your day job.
 
By this "proof," then any value is equal to any other value.
 
You only showed that 1=1, not that 2+2=5.

Plus, [a+b=c] ≠ [(a+b)/(a+b)=c/c]

Using proper mathematics would give you (a+b)/[c(a+b)]=c/[c(a+b)] => 1/c=1/(a+b), wich still means a+b=c.
 
Math is just logic, so I can prove something like that to you, because it is proof in itself. When someone says something with math, then it's first hand, all that's there is logic. Not statements of evidence, or first hand evidence.
The preciousness of math is that you can't prove something like that, as opposed to crazy speeches.
What do you guys think about this? That through my method any two things can be made equal?
Uhm... That someone forgot to take his medications.

What's wrong with all these guys lately? Is this the spring exacerbation?..
 
By this "proof," then any value is equal to any other value.

You're right. I think this is a math equivalent of singularity. Does that help your brain not hurt? Maybe some booze would help.

:cheers:

I ask you, can you prove it wrong? Can you not just 1+3/1+3 and reduce that down to 1/1, then 1? Then if that's true, there's nothing stopping the reverse from happening. For any value whatsoever, well, perhaps whatsoever. I can't say without trying it for everything, but it would seem to be logically true.

Just think of a real singularity. Just think of Stephen Hawking having to take back what he said about entropy.

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The preciousness of math is that you can't prove something like that, as opposed to crazy speeches.

Uhm... That someone forgot to take his medications.

What's wrong with all these guys lately? Is this the spring exacerbation?..
That's precisely what you're supposed to say. I must not be doing my job here.

Your brains are computers that just threw up an error. What is it that you do not understand? What would you like explained better, perhaps if I know what to say to you, then you'll understand.

Maybe I should make this really clear:
Think 2001: A Space Odyssey, think the monolith, then look at this:
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That's a really neat looking triangle, kind of looks like mine, only with junk on the outside and an eye in the middle.

If an alien species came to earth, and they had advanced technology, wouldn't that look like magic? Or maybe an act of God?

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

If we listen to the Bible, which is not a religious text but an irrational interpretation of such a visit, Mary, the mother of Jesus, was a Virgin.

If we assume that just like in other areas, native people's had myths that turned out to be observations made without the knowledge to rationalize them, why wouldn't the same be true for this kind of thing?

If we assume they saw 100% what's in this tiny tidbit, we must assume the following is true:
1. Parthenogensis, something that's simply not possible with a mother who is XX and child who is XY
2. An act of God, or magic

Today, we know that it is not impossible for a woman to have a baby while still being a virgin. It's called artificial insemination. If we ourselves were to travel back in time, and take the necessary samples from Joseph and inseminate them into Mary, we would probably be considered Gods ourselves. To create a human being without the act known to be prerequisite to such a thing? Out of all things in this world, that would have seemed just amazing to them.

So, either we are Gods ourselves, or the people in that time had an irrational explanation for what they saw, based upon incomplete information. A while back, maybe a year or so, this research team claimed to have found the tomb of Jesus. It had an ossuary, which I guess is like some kind of weird coffin, which said "Jesus Son of Joseph."

On the tomb, it had this symbol:
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It looks pretty interesting to me. Looks kind of like the eye of providence.

God, at least the one talked about in the Bible, is just an alien race.

Either we are Gods, a totally irrational thing to say, or we have been visited by ETs which is now more rational to say. It's now only a little into the impossible, because we'd have to be Gods if it weren't.
 
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Sorry, I don't follow your lack of logic.
 
My brain does not threw up errors. It is equipped with low level error recovery, like the brain of any more or less sane human. But I never tested it against all kinds of inputs, especially not large caliber projectiles.

And singularities are undefined regions. Once you enter a singularity, you can never be sure what will come out. You might think, you have now found out that 2+2 is 5. But use the same singularity in a more complex mathematical term, and it will behave like 2+2 is 324239012129101. You can't control it.

That is why there are some important laws in mathematics on which operations are producing valid terms, and which operations are producing (hidden) singularities.
 
Math is perceptual and logical. Depending on the representation and intention. No arrogance here. 2+2=5 yes, there is a way.

10 + 10 = 100 Also true, but the initial perception is that 10 + 10 = 20 without knowing the representation of these numbers are binary.

That's the good thing about math....and why it can explain so many many things.

...except for the floating point decimal error....that is just plain wrong.... :) Yeah, I know, its perceptual there too because of the way it is calculated.
 
Your brains are computers that just threw up an error. What is it that you do not understand? What would you like explained better, perhaps if I know what to say to you, then you'll understand.

My brain is not throwing errors. It's detecting overtones of sarcasm that the others seem to be missing.

EDIT: You're also missing something about the structure of your diagram. Your triangle has 3 corners, 2+2, 1, and 5. You're forgetting the 1. Once you add that in, you get (2+2)+1=5, which agrees with traditional mathematics. :P :P :cheers:
 
My brain is not throwing errors. It's detecting overtones of sarcasm that the others seem to be missing.

EDIT: You're also missing something about the structure of your diagram. Your triangle has 3 corners, 2+2, 1, and 5. You're forgetting the 1. Once you add that in, you get (2+2)+1=5, which agrees with traditional mathematics. :P :P :cheers:
There is no sarcasm. He's being serious. That's the best part.
 
The only way that you can get one value to equil another is to devide by zero, or some variable which is not precluded from going to zero and which is nessecery for the "proof". 2+2=5 when you change the rules of math.
 
the math makes sense,
I am lost though at the Logic.
No, the math does not make sense. He's multiplying each side by a different value.
 
So what you've just said is, one number is equal to itself and another number is equal to itself; and because they are both equal to themselves they are equal to each other.

Which is somehow an anomaly in mathematics that I'm "arrogant" enough to ignore? I don't buy it.
 
When you opened up that thread, YOU KNEW that 2+2 did not equal 5. YOU WERE ARROGANT. A

So not only are you rewriting maths you are reading my mind. Damn, you are good.

Oh, I am arrogant. In fact I'm so arrogant I'm just going to put your name into the special folder reserved for all mind readers on here. It's called ignore.

*PLONK*

There, that didn't hurt too much did it?
 
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