Question Apollo transmissions and HAM radio

[george7378]

Hi all,

I was taking a look at the 'UFO encounters' section of this page earlier:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

Specifically near the middle, where it says "Apollo 11: I say that there were other spaceships!"

This is supposedly a secretive transmission by the crew, telling mission control about the presence of UFOs. The article states that even though it was not audible through the live public transmission because of apparent scrambling, it was audible to HAMs using amateur radios.

I don't believe that this is true, because HAMs have their own designated frequency ranges, and there is no reason why NASA would transmit on those, but I am still interested to know where this myth came from.

Thanks.
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[Sam]

The article states that even though it was not audible through the live public transmission because of apparent scrambling, it was audible to HAMs using amateur radios.

I don't believe that this is true, because HAMs have their own designated frequency ranges, and there is no reason why NASA would transmit on those,[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+3]
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I don't believe the overall idea at all (UFOs, little green men, etc.), but a lot of ham radio gear can receive across wider frequency ranges than just allocated ham radio bands, so no problem there. The scrambling might present a problem though. :rofl:

SAM
Ham radio operator since '77

 

[pattersoncr]

I don't believe NASA encrypted any of the Apollo transmitions. Everything was pretty much in the clear. As evidence, read the Apollo 12 Flight Journal and count up the number of times Pete Conrad says "dagnabit" (or similar) to avoid swearing.

It's unfortunate that the term UFO has become so inextricably linked with alien nuttiness. A UFO is just that: Unidentified. Apollo 11 did see a UFO in the most litteral sense. It may have been their spent SIVB rocket stage or maybe not.

 

[george7378]

Yes - that's what I've always thought - it is obvious UFOs exist!

I also find the strange conversation hard to believe, and don't think that the crew would have started blurting about aliens landing on the moon and moving their equipment about.

 

[Zatnikitelman]

Hams might have their own frequencies to transmit on, but our radios can usually listen well outside them. There's NOTHING ILLEGAL (in the U.S.) about listening in at least so long as the signal isn't encrypted (cellphones, government/military stuff etc.).

 

[Saturn V]

Surfing the 'net, I too have come across audio files which purport to be these same "secret" transmissions.

I have countless hours of audio and video of the Apollo program and I can tell you undeniably for a FACT that the voices you hear on these recordings do NOT belong to Armstrong, Aldrin or Collins, nor do they belong to ANY Apollo astronaut.

Regardless of youtube videos to the contrary, there was NO "secret" Apollo 18, 19 or 20 mission either.

The moon hoax/conpiracy/UFO theorists have entirely too much time on their hands. Instead of lighting the fire of their minds, they allow their feeble heads to be filled with sensationalist garbage and in turn spew it across the net like a pack of demented weasels with explosive diarrhea.

While I don't discount the likelihood of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, sometimes I can't help but question the existence of it here.

 

[T.Neo]

there was NO "secret" Apollo 18, 19 or 20 mission either.

Clearly- I'd like to see the conspiricy theorists explain how NASA covered up a Saturn-V launch...

 

[Moonwalker]

But we should not forget that even Buzz Aldrin / the Apollo 11 mission / NASA people are contributing to UFO hypotheses...

EDIT: And remember Edgar Mitchell (Apollo 14), the alien man

http://dsc.discovery.com/space/qa/alien-ufo-edgar-mitchell.html

 

[Saturn V]

But we should not forget that even Buzz Aldrin / the Apollo 11 mission / NASA people are contributing to UFO hypotheses...

Bear in mind that the astronauts are individuals much like you and I, and as such will have their own opinions, ideas, beliefs and theories.

And it has been factually documented that several astronauts have indeed seen UFOs in the course of their missions. However, UFO means exactly what the acronym implies...UNIDENTIFIED Flying Object...NOT alien spacecraft.

Buzz did witness an object he was unable to identify in cis-lunar space. The ground later determined it was probably one of the SIVB panels jettisoned prior to LM extraction.

NASA has been as transparent in their disclosure of these incidents as possible given the information available to them.

There's some pretty intriguing footage out there of a UFO ostensibly shot on one of the shuttle flights in the early to mid '90s. The object appears to be performing manuevers that are not possible with our spacecraft given current technology. However, the footage was shot from a distance that makes positive identification impossible.

NASA does not deny that the event happened, or that the footage is real. All they've ever said is that they don't know what was observed/filmed.

The sensational "smoking gun" video and audio clips you find all over the web are products of the over-active imaginations of people who spend too much time with their faces buried in the National Enquirer.

 

[george7378]

Yes - as I said before, I don't believe this myself, because of the fact that it is much more likely to be a natural or passive artificial phenomenon than aliens, and as such, alien activity is the unlogical choice. I've never heard any audio from these broadcasts, or heard the 'secret Apollo mission' conspiracy either.

I'm not a conspirator in any way, and my most convincing arguments for the lunar landings are:

- If the whole thing was pre-orchestrated, and no testing of the spacecraft systems needed to launch to the moon was really needed, then why were all the genuine lunar orbiter (extra oxygen, extra electrics, etc...) systems contributing the Apollo 1 fire actually turned on? Are the government supposed to have to make it more convincing? Not likely.

- Why go nine times, and land 6?

- If the SIVB/LM/CSM stack was not actually going to the Moon, but remained in Earth orbit, why has no-one ever reported seeing it? All of the Apollo missions would have been up there long enough, and were large enough to be bright enough to be seen regularly. Why was the SIVB never seen to re-enter? BECASUE IT'S ON THE MOON!!

- Plus all the others

Also, how come no transmissions were ever picked up from astronauts ACTUALLY in LEO? How could the whole of mission control be focused on a fake mission to the Moon? Who would look after the astronauts in LEO?

 

[Ark]

Clearly- I'd like to see the conspiricy theorists explain how NASA covered up a Saturn-V launch...

Skylab never existed, it was all a cover-up for secret moon missions. All footage of Skylab was filmed on a sound stage using models built by ILM.