News 33 miners are found trapped underground alive

jedidia said:
Not quite so. You're forgetting about Hygiene, which is precarious in that muddy hole. I heared they already had a case of Funghi outbreak, and they have no showers. There are good chances of one or several of the miners getting seriously ill during these four months.
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They may send down some disinfectant and cleaning gel, probably. Will help a little.
 
They may send down some disinfectant and cleaning gel, probably. Will help a little.
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I'm sure they'll be able to keep deseases at check somehow, especially if the miners are getting propper food. But going four months without a shower or a bath isn't exactly very aleviating for your morale.
 
In the middle age, a lot of people were thinking that water was something to keep away from. The french king Louis the XIVth, one of the most known (he built Versailles), never took a bath of it's life (he almost drowned himself at the age of 5 in a palace fountain, so he got phobic in some way). He died at 72, (from an infection, that's true).

Also, the sailors of the ancient times were not washing themselves, drinkable water was much too precious. And washing with sea water was completely excluded - those people were very superstitious -.

So I'm rather confident that hygiene won't kill them, though it could have an influence on their morale. Like the NASA seems to have understood, all will be a matter of morale and psychology (and booze isn't a good thing, there ;)).
 
A graphics from livescience.com:

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NASA Sets Briefing About Assistance To Trapped Miners In Chile.

A NASA team sent to Chile to aid trapped miners will hold a news conference about their work at the San Jose gold and copper mine near Copiapo at noon CDT, Tuesday, Sept. 7. The conference will be at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, and it will air live on NASA Television and the agency's website.

The participants also will answer questions from reporters at participating NASA centers. For journalists not able to attend at a NASA center, a limited number of phone lines are available by calling 281-483-5111 by 11:45 AM on Tuesday.

U.S. news media planning to attend the briefing in person must contact the Johnson newsroom at 281-483-5111 by 10 AM Tuesday. Reporters interested in a one-on-one interview must contact the Johnson newsroom by 11:30 AM Tuesday.

NASA responded to a request from the government of Chile, submitted through the U.S. Department of State, to provide technical advice that might assist the trapped miners. The NASA team of two medical doctors, a psychologist and an engineer arrived in Chile Aug. 31.

Dr. Michael Duncan, deputy chief medical officer in the Space Life Sciences Directorate at Johnson, led the team. The other members are physician James Polk and psychologist Albert Holland from Johnson; and Clint Cragg, principal engineer with the NASA Engineering and Safety Center located at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va.

The team will participate in the news conference. Afterward, Duncan will be available for one-on-one interviews.

For more information about NASA's assistance in Chile, visit:
www.nasa.gov/news/chile_assistance.html

Source.
 
Rescue cage arrives at Chilean mine site

BBC News Article said:
Early on Saturday local time the Strata 950, the first of three drills working to bore a hole wide enough to rescue the men, had reached a depth of 442m (1,458ft).

But the Strata is still on its pilot hole, and will have to drill down a second time to widen the shaft enough to fit the rescue pod.

The second drill, which has already completed its pilot hole, has reached 175m (577ft).

The third machine, which is the only one to drill a shaft wide enough in the first go, is at 62m (204ft).
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This is quite remarkable that they might get out this early. I offer my best wishes to them.
 
Drill baby drill !

By the fact it's finished since around one hour but it seems that the miner will have to use explosives ( des explosifs ) to enlarge the "tunnel" ( le forage; shaft ? ) at it's base to facilitate the rescue.

Here, a link to see the rescue:

http://www.24horas.cl/especiales/mineros/index.aspx

Ve en vivo y en directo una completa cobertura del rescate de los 33 mineros.
 
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Where do you get the information that explosives are required? There hasn't been any mention of them in the news articles I've read.

This is the latest from the BBC -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11506595 <- And again, no mention of explosives. There are some thoughts around not lining the shaft with steel and using the rescue cage in shaft as drilled.
 
There

http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/art...urs-chiliens_1423109_3222.html#ens_id=1401641

A quick translation of two paragraph of the news:

" The Chilean health minister, Jaime Manalich, announced that the rescue could come as early as Tuesday, his colleague of mine in turn evoking a period of "three and eight" days, depending on the decision to sheath all or part of the well ( tunnel ? shaft ? ) with steel tubes. Minors will be hauled one by one, in a narrow cage-metal boat winched by crane ( une grue ).

Before that, the 33 men with explosives will expand the arrivals area of the well ( tunnel ? shaft ? ), for easy maneuvering with the car ( false translation i think for car; in french: nacelle,; rescue cage ). They are able to "handle explosives. These are minor, they work with it," noted the engineer Andrés Sougarret, without specifying the quantity of explosives required, nor the volume of rock burst."


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And i see that they are talking about explosives too on 24horas ( link posted in my previous message )
 
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Nothing about explosives in russian news, but there they say that the rest of the miners on the surface are protesting around the area because no one paid them wages since early august.

Also, there is a mention of sunglasses needed to the people stuck below, since after two months without sun they won't see anything above.
 
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