marooder86
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In that way you'll have to wait a while but accordingly to this info, it will be eventually published in Youtube and Vimeo.
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jedidia
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looks like not only the MFDs are taken from orbiter, but the hopping UMMU's as well... :lol:
other than that, really, really great production values! And generally pretty good scripting, too. I especially enjoyed the debate about the possible causes, seemed very lifelike.
What I did not quite get is what's going on in the L5 cylinder. It doesn't seem to be rotating in the external shots and when they enter it, yet suddenly there's gravity strong enough to crash the elevator. From a point almost at the center of the cylinder, where the "gravity" would be very weak even if it was rotating. Maybe something I missed in the overall scheme, or maybe a little fault in the consistency. All in all, it was a great watch either way.
Also, the mission commander watched too much star trek. If you're commanding a mission that bears the potentially last survivors of the human race, you don't do EVA! :lol:
other than that, really, really great production values! And generally pretty good scripting, too. I especially enjoyed the debate about the possible causes, seemed very lifelike.
What I did not quite get is what's going on in the L5 cylinder. It doesn't seem to be rotating in the external shots and when they enter it, yet suddenly there's gravity strong enough to crash the elevator. From a point almost at the center of the cylinder, where the "gravity" would be very weak even if it was rotating. Maybe something I missed in the overall scheme, or maybe a little fault in the consistency. All in all, it was a great watch either way.
Also, the mission commander watched too much star trek. If you're commanding a mission that bears the potentially last survivors of the human race, you don't do EVA! :lol:
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Agreed. That struck me, too. There I was sitting and enjoying silence of space scenes, only to go :facepalm
n that elevator thing. But let's see what the story tells us later on. TBH, though, I think it is just a glitch in the story, as it is promised to be hard-scifi. And as such, I hope there will be no magic gravity device hidden in there to explain that hick-up.
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Downloading it now ... very much looking forward to watching it this evening 
jedidia
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Just rewatched it. It looks like the "dock section" of the cylinder is counter-rotating, so the outside of the cylinder is a rotating frame while the whole front center is not. Depending on how many ships you expect to dock there, such an arrangement might make sense, although I don't want to be the one greasing the bearings.
Somehow showing the switch from static to rotating frame of the two men could have made that clearer. The fact that it is still very weird for the elevator to crash from the center remains, but who knows, for all we know it comes out to be sabotage or something later on. Or not. I've seen worse plot devices.
Somehow showing the switch from static to rotating frame of the two men could have made that clearer. The fact that it is still very weird for the elevator to crash from the center remains, but who knows, for all we know it comes out to be sabotage or something later on. Or not. I've seen worse plot devices.
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The platform is not on the center line of the rotation.
The further you go from the center axis toward the outside wall the more gravity there is.
At center axis...zero gee
At outside wall...roughly one gee.
The point where the platform was had about 1/6 gee, or Lunar Gee. Enough to pull them down...and to accelerate them while gravity increased on the way down.
You guys are correct in that the docking 'endcap' is on a bearing/suspended so that it remains still while the colony rotates.
I guess the fact that the astronauts had traveled into the cylinder and 'down' off the center line wasn't clear enough, that is something that will have to be addressed.
The further you go from the center axis toward the outside wall the more gravity there is.
At center axis...zero gee
At outside wall...roughly one gee.
The point where the platform was had about 1/6 gee, or Lunar Gee. Enough to pull them down...and to accelerate them while gravity increased on the way down.
You guys are correct in that the docking 'endcap' is on a bearing/suspended so that it remains still while the colony rotates.
I guess the fact that the astronauts had traveled into the cylinder and 'down' off the center line wasn't clear enough, that is something that will have to be addressed.
Izack
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Love the TransX reference.
Edit: Oh, hadn't watched the whole thing at the time. It gets better I see. :lol:
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jedidia
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It is clear that they travel down some maybe 20m, what isn't is that they entered a rotating frame. You see them approaching from the dock, which doesn't rotate around them, then touch down, get on the elevator, and... well. That the cylinder is actually rotating can be seen clearly in one outside shot that is not quite related, and in another one of the docking section the rest of the cylinder can be seen rotating just behind it, but you have to pay good attention to get it.
So if you missed that detail in those two scenes, you assume that the cylinder currently isn't rotating at all. A shot of the astronauts actually passing from the static into the rotating frame would have avoided that confusion, although it certainly wouldn't be an easy shot and possibly hard to make look good (I assumed that this was probably the reason why such a shot had been omitted).
RisingFury
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Nitpick, nitpick, nitpick... jeez, people. Just enjoy!
The only hope I have for the series that the AI doesn't go all HAL9000 on them...
By the way, you can clearly see the station rotating at the beginning of the episode.
The only hope I have for the series that the AI doesn't go all HAL9000 on them...
By the way, you can clearly see the station rotating at the beginning of the episode.
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As one of the folks involved in the production...I will say this. We really really want this to be perfect from a HARD SCI FI standpoint. A lot of the issues that folks have pointed out are things we are aware of, and there are answers for, but we may have not done a perfect job of explaining/showing how they work.
Izack
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Indeed. It would be a nice change to have an AI that isn't an evil madman (madmachine?) for once.
On that note, I like the choice of Clark's name. Very fitting, but it does give bad vibes to people who've read/watched 2001. :lol:
jedidia
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I do, as proofed by me rewatching the episode just one day after I saw it the first time
The "nitpicking" is more meant in the way of (hopefully) constructive criticism, not to diminish the efforts of the creators.
Also, I don't think there's a universe where nerds don't nitpick :lol:
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This is something I love and look forward to...if folks are nit-picking, they are thinking and engaged with what we are doing.
What I hope comes across is that we are listening.
Face
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...and this is understandable. It was nevertheless an outstanding job, if I might add.
The explanation outlined with static/rotating-frame transition would indeed make it much clearer, and it could be incorporated in later scenes, as I'd guess those 2 won't be the last to go in there throughout the story.
Please excuse me "nitpicking", it is just the standard Orbinaut's way to look at space movies :lol: . Keep up the wonderful work!
RisingFury
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I understand constructive criticism and I encourage people to offer it. I just think it's kind of pointless when all the clues are already in the episode.
I'm really interested to see what happened to all the people, more accurately, where are all the dead bodies. Bones would still be there after 200 years, right? I'm hoping the story explains that.
I'm really interested to see what happened to all the people, more accurately, where are all the dead bodies. Bones would still be there after 200 years, right? I'm hoping the story explains that.
jedidia
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Well, let's start speculating, then...
It's 200 years later. The original plan was to get people off of earth. So when the argo didn't return, maybe they went on and started the exodus anyways.
Getting the whole population off in 200 years... Nah, that sounds stretchier than the "Alien" hypothesis. Also, we know that Clarke picked up a message which he thought critical enough to delay arrival by 200 years. So no... the late arrival cannot be the cause, since the whatever happened seems to be the cause of the late arrival. It is also something that wasn't entirely unexpected, judging by the conversation between Clarke and Adams, but dramatic enough to withhold it from the crew.
So that's four major clues, all in all: No people, no bodies, not entirely unexpected, and something you don't want to end up in the middle of. Don't know, I can't make anything out of that yet. The suggested massive solar flare does not sound too implausible, except for no visible remains whatsoever.
It's 200 years later. The original plan was to get people off of earth. So when the argo didn't return, maybe they went on and started the exodus anyways.
Getting the whole population off in 200 years... Nah, that sounds stretchier than the "Alien" hypothesis. Also, we know that Clarke picked up a message which he thought critical enough to delay arrival by 200 years. So no... the late arrival cannot be the cause, since the whatever happened seems to be the cause of the late arrival. It is also something that wasn't entirely unexpected, judging by the conversation between Clarke and Adams, but dramatic enough to withhold it from the crew.
So that's four major clues, all in all: No people, no bodies, not entirely unexpected, and something you don't want to end up in the middle of. Don't know, I can't make anything out of that yet. The suggested massive solar flare does not sound too implausible, except for no visible remains whatsoever.
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Hey, it's just the first episode. We're (rather, they are) still establishing the series' premise. The first episodes will raise more questions than they answer, probably.
Besides the story, I'd like to know more about the equipment and software the production used. Cameras, setups, CGI, the whole stuff.
Besides the story, I'd like to know more about the equipment and software the production used. Cameras, setups, CGI, the whole stuff.
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Here is a taste of the the ideas behind the show...specifically the Argo and the Colony.
http://youtu.be/qNPhnJFpG3Y
And if you want to read up on the production process (granted we don't get into a lot of the VFX tech, but that is something we are discussing doing) there is the Production Blog at http://l5production.blogspot.com/
http://youtu.be/qNPhnJFpG3Y
And if you want to read up on the production process (granted we don't get into a lot of the VFX tech, but that is something we are discussing doing) there is the Production Blog at http://l5production.blogspot.com/
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This is great. I really enjoyed the first episode and I am looking forward to more, however I feel obliged to point out the entirely unexplained yet entirely visible wire @ around 20:00
