The answer is blowin in the wind.
News Amy Winehouse found dead in her apartment
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The answer is blowin in the wind.
fsci123
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Keep in mind that she died because of her own doing. Kinda like you jumping off a 100 floor building and landing in a kiddy pool and then expecting to survive.
No offense but i think that any person doing horse tranquilizer as a rec-drug shouldn't be expected to survive long.
No offense but i think that any person doing horse tranquilizer as a rec-drug shouldn't be expected to survive long.
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Pyromaniac605
Toast! :D
I'm sorry to everyone else with different opinions, but I agree (At least partially) with Urwumpe, it is sad to hear of someone dying, but that does not instantly demand respect, people earn respect for what they have done in life, not for over-dosing on drugs and dying by no fault but there own.
Jarvitä
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After yesterday's tragedy, I can't bring myself to feel bad about this.
Pyromaniac605
Toast! :D
Although, which do you think people are unfortunately going to be talking about when I show up at school tomorrow...? :facepalm:
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If 1 person doesn't count, neither does a 100.
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When we talked about Osama Bin Laden being murdered, rather than being given a fair trial, you showed him more respect than you do Amy Winehouse.
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The UK media is having a frenzy, just heard her compared with Hendrix, Joplin. Brought in a recovering drug addict for the comparison, and a family therapist in case I've been traumatised. The BBC is really good at social work these days.
Not sure if it will reach Diana levels, I think they peaked too early.
Edit: itunes just wanted an update, so I looked at itunes store, guess what one of their promotions is?
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Not sure if it will reach Diana levels, I think they peaked too early.
Edit: itunes just wanted an update, so I looked at itunes store, guess what one of their promotions is?
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jedidia
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If you want it on a purely technical basis, professional musicians assured me that she was pretty damn good before she ruined her voice with drugs (you ruin your body, you ruin your voice. It's the greatest myth of singing that alcohol and cigarets improve your voice). I'd say that she was still able to sing the way she did with that wreck of a body attests to her technical skill.
It's just a completely different genre and a completely diefferent style than the mentioned Taria Turunen. Appart from that, Turunen is a studied pro, which is never quite the same as a freelance singer gone famous. Most studied singing tutors can sing the socks of most pop-stars (Celine Dion being one of the rare exceptions, maybe Mariah Carrie) anytime, they just rarely get famous. It's the same as for any other instrument, really. For example there's some very decent drummers in the world of stars, but very few of them could match my old drum teacher: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-bSx6t_YqA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-bSx6t_YqA[/ame]
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It is a huge difference if I celebrate the death of somebody and verbally dance on her grave, or simply say the obvious that she really did draw the wrong conclusions about her role models.
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It is possible that she was good - I did say already that she was pretty talented. But before her death, she wasn't. She was a professional drug addict at that time, and no professional musician. On a good day, she possibly had been able to show a glimpse of her former skills - but a few days later, she was already more focused on her chemical experiments.
And really good singers, not even just the professional ones, can sing good everyday, every time except when ill. And some even sound great when having a cold. Hell, even somebody like Justin Bieber manages to do a good performance (for his league) after throwing up his past dozen Christmas dinners in the toilet.
But in case of Winehouse? Even her studio albums had been good song writing, but the singing was already pretty weak since 2006 - and who knows that there was an album before "Back to Black", on which she really did show the talent?
I found her career terribly hyped, way beyond what she really was - others had been much further there, but didn't get the attention since it was way more interesting writing about Amy Winehouse latest escapades. It became all just about Sex & Drugs, but no longer about Rock&Roll.
bujin
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Never liked her as an artist. Even back in 2004 before she became a junkie I didn't think she was up to much. Just listening to the following clip from the Strat Pack concert, I can't understand a bleedin' word she's singing.
I feel sorry for her family, particularly her father, who tried everything to get her clean. But this has been coming for several years. It was only a matter of when it would happen, not if.
I feel sorry for her family, particularly her father, who tried everything to get her clean. But this has been coming for several years. It was only a matter of when it would happen, not if.
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In the obituary on Spiegel Online, I think the found the right words about her career:
Already the Drink, that had her name, was dangerous. "Amy's fave" was the name of the milky white drink from hell, mixed by the orders of its namesake from a handful of highly alcoholic ingredients to a monster of a cocktail. How strong this was rushing through the blood vessels, media representatives discovered, who had been offered this drink four years ago in the basement bar of the club "Kalkscheune" in central Berlin.
The record label of Amy Winehouse had invited to celebrate the German release of the album "Back to Black" with a drink. Who just took a single glass of "Amy's fave", saw the world increasingly dizzy. And not few had been surprised, how the main person of the evening had been drinking one glass after another at the bar.
The interviews scheduled for the next day had been canceled on the next morning. The artist is unwell, it was told. What remained, was a glimpse of the drama of the Amy Winehouse. Of a human, who you could watch travel at high speed towards the exitus.
The mediocre concert in the "Kalkscheune", that preceded the drinking orgy, was released later as bonus CD on just another Deluxe version of "Back to Black". Evidence, how the music industry utilized every halfway good performance of its bestseller supplier.
http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/0,1518,776277,00.html (german original text)
Already the Drink, that had her name, was dangerous. "Amy's fave" was the name of the milky white drink from hell, mixed by the orders of its namesake from a handful of highly alcoholic ingredients to a monster of a cocktail. How strong this was rushing through the blood vessels, media representatives discovered, who had been offered this drink four years ago in the basement bar of the club "Kalkscheune" in central Berlin.
The record label of Amy Winehouse had invited to celebrate the German release of the album "Back to Black" with a drink. Who just took a single glass of "Amy's fave", saw the world increasingly dizzy. And not few had been surprised, how the main person of the evening had been drinking one glass after another at the bar.
The interviews scheduled for the next day had been canceled on the next morning. The artist is unwell, it was told. What remained, was a glimpse of the drama of the Amy Winehouse. Of a human, who you could watch travel at high speed towards the exitus.
The mediocre concert in the "Kalkscheune", that preceded the drinking orgy, was released later as bonus CD on just another Deluxe version of "Back to Black". Evidence, how the music industry utilized every halfway good performance of its bestseller supplier.
http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/musik/0,1518,776277,00.html (german original text)
RisingFury
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URWUMPE THE TERRORIST LOVER!!!!!!!
There's a slight difference between bin Laden and Winehouse. One was a terrorist who broke countless laws and killed thousands and was then shot instead of given a trial... the other overdosed on drugs.
Giving bin Laden a trial isn't good for bin Laden, it's good for US society. He would have still been killed or at locked away forever.
To be fair, addiction is a disease. I don't think it is entirely up to personal choice, when a person has an addiction. It becomes a huge thing that is defined by psychology, and even biology- a dependance that the body has now learned, that is very difficult to get rid of.
That said, it doesn't hurt to try, and I'm not sure if Winehouse did or did not try.
But I also don't particularly care. I feel sorry for her family of course, but I don't think it is a major event, especially coming right after over 90 people were killed in Norway...
It was just a matter of time.
That said, it doesn't hurt to try, and I'm not sure if Winehouse did or did not try.
But I also don't particularly care. I feel sorry for her family of course, but I don't think it is a major event, especially coming right after over 90 people were killed in Norway...
It was just a matter of time.
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All I'm saying that the death of ANY young person before their time is a sad event regardless of the lifestyle they led and should certainly not be mocked.
Regardless of whether you liked her music or not, regardless whether you disapproved of her lifestyle or the person she was, this was still someone's daughter, and still a human beeing before drugs got a hold of her.
Mocking and celebrating somebody's death only shows the infinatile nature of your spirital development.
Regardless of whether you liked her music or not, regardless whether you disapproved of her lifestyle or the person she was, this was still someone's daughter, and still a human beeing before drugs got a hold of her.
Mocking and celebrating somebody's death only shows the infinatile nature of your spirital development.
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fsci123
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Well she died way past than what she was expected to live no offense. The true Amy whinehouse died along time ago with the first hit of heroin. I find it hard to believe that such a minor incident would get any notice in such a high intellect forum. Seriously we have lots of things to worry about that are more important than her...
Were on the brink or nuclear war. Dollar could go Down. Greek civil war. EU collapse. Alien invasion. And Super AIDS. Are all more important than a small time British celeberaty.
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To you maybe but what about everyone who saw her as an icon and see no issues with drugs? *IF* and it's still an if pending the autopsy she died of a drugs overdose she may well serve her most important purpose and convey the dangers of drugs to those who followed her.
I think you are being a little over dramatic here. The loss of a 'small time British celebrity' is more important to some people than all of your very unlikely scenarios because that 'small time British Celebrity' is a lot more real to the people who met her and saw her perform. Never forget that.
Kyle
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As for everything else, no idea.
As for everything else, no idea.
Greek civil war? There is no civil "war". And the Greek crisis is not my problem. It's their problem.
EU collapse? I don't care. I can perfectly exist without the EU.
Alien invasion? Please yes, and preferably beautiful female aliens!
Super AIDS? Never heard of super AIDS. We have about 500 AIDS deaths in Germany each year vs. a quarter million cancer deaths. I'm not scared of AIDS at all. Getting HIV is preventable if you know the possible transmission paths. But cancer can hit everybody at any time and does do so hundreds of thousands of times each year only in Germany.
Nuclear war? Who, where and why?
