TKS Spacecraft

[Thorton]

...but there is no information that a SAS for the Merkur ever existed, that went beyond mass simulators for drop tests.

No offense, but if you don't know something it doesn't really mean that this is not exist.

Scruce
TKS had a LES that you already deleted It was intended to save vessel in case of abort on launch pad and in the max Q part of trajectory. Unfortunately i cant remember timings of LES jettison. TDU engine is very small, it had a power to provide deorbit burn and abourt in later stages of flight.

Here is few pics for you:

 

[Urwumpe]

Damn language barrier. I only had seen photographs without anything like that.

 

[Thorton]

As far as i remember, last two are stills from dual VA launch.

 

[Urwumpe]

AS fas as i remember, last two is stills from dual VA launch.

Yes, but I didn't see any such launch pictures here in Germany - not even the German book that astronautix quotes did show them. :facepalm:

But that is really a great find I wish I would have the time to finish my own Merkur capsule.

 

[Scruce]

Re-integrated SAS into the TKS VA.

 

[Tacolev]

Question: Do you intend to make a mesh for the launch fairing? I suggest only as it would probably integrate better with your TKS if you made it.

 

[Scruce]

Question: Do you intend to make a mesh for the launch fairing? I suggest only as it would probably integrate better with your TKS if you made it.

If I can get the dimensions of it, then yes, it'll only take a few minutes.

 

[Alfastar]

Scruce, what for rocket go you use to launch the TKS?

 

[Tacolev]

This should be helpful.

 

[Scruce]

Scruce, what for rocket go you use to launch the TKS?

The TKS Spacecraft launched atop a Proton rocket.

 

[4throck]

It's just confusing that these two American pictures show the Soyuz green.

You are NOT wrong. This has been discussed before. The best consensus is that the thermal cloth is dark grey before launch, but on early flights the space environment made it change to that greenish hue. On more modern spacecraft the materials have been perfected and the cloth preserves it's original color mush better.

Regarding Soviet film, here's Apollo from ASTP photographed from the Soyuz. I can't see any green cast although is does look somewhat different. The Apollo has the space weathered look common on soviet photos.

So I'd say that the greenish tint is the real color of the capsule after a few days in space, but perhaps not as saturated as on photos and drawings.

Interestingly enough, after some years on earth, the green color emerges:

 

[Scruce]

It seems the exporter does not like to handle textures, materials are fine, but not textures.

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On top of that, the meshes are oriented wrongly.

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What i'm going to do, is export without textures and highlight what needs to be remapped.

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I think I may have found the UV mapping solution.

On another note, I converted the SAS to .msh fine.

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Ok, they're going up on OHM now, files will be in .3ds format.

I just need to write a little documentation.

 

[T.Neo]

Now hold on just a darn minute. Why can't we ask a cosmonaut or astronaut what colour Soyuzes were in those days? Surely having seen the vehicle in person, they would be able to explain what it looked like relatively well.

 

[4throck]

Why doubt all the photos? They all agree and show the same colors, regardless of Soviet film , American film or modern digital photos.
Also, Soviet illustrations show the same consistent color. I'd ask details we don't know, not for things that are completely documented. Just my opinion!

 

[Urwumpe]

Why doubt all the photos? They all agree and show the same colors, regardless of Soviet film , American film or modern digital photos.
Also, Soviet illustrations show the same consistent color. I'd ask details we don't know, not for things that are completely documented. Just my opinion!

Why doubt the photographs? Because the reason why the photographs are consistently wrong is documented? Because even soviet astronauts mention that the colors of spacecraft are not like many illustrations claim (eg, Vostok being white - just like you would prefer in space and not green).

 

[T.Neo]

Why doubt all the photos?

Palm trees are not white? But the photo is so clear about it! Why doubt the photo?

(btw, that is a photo in infrared, a part of the spectrum under which leaves are very reflective).

They all agree and show the same colors, regardless of Soviet film , American film or modern digital photos.

But I thought the modern digital photos disagreed:

Also, the picture of the greenish Soyuz-thing on Earth does not really prove much, as it could have been covered with a greenish cloth (just as illustrations made the spacecraft appear green). And why would the space environment immediately make a thermal cloth turn green?

 

[Urwumpe]

Or what about this photograph?

Which one shows the right colors?

 

[jangofett287]

And also don't forget about differences in screen calibration! :lol:

 

[Scruce]

Uploaded on to Orbit Hangar Mods, currently waiting on approval.

 

[Urwumpe]

Uploaded on to Orbit Hangar Mods, currently waiting on approval.

Just the raw meshes or did you already do an add-on of it?