Gaming Violence in video games

[Grover]

Hilarious.:lol:

theres a reason it says "18" no the box, you shouldnt buy games like that for children younger than 16 at a push, not because it winds older players up, but because it really IS a negative influence on that poor kid

to quote a line from Ok Go:
"War became a job"

thats what'll happen if people start playing warfare games as young as 7-8 years old. you grow up with that stuff and you'll become a violent person whether you realise it or not

*it actually affects all of us, but children are more prone to adapting from behaviours they observe, since they are still developing their personalities at a basic level

 

[Ghostrider]

thats what'll happen if people start playing warfare games as young as 7-8 years old. you grow up with that stuff and you'll become a violent person whether you realise it or not

Hey, when I was a kid we played warfare for real and we didn't become violent persons.

 

[Pyromaniac605]

theres a reason it says "18" no the box, you shouldnt buy games like that for children younger than 16 at a push, not because it winds older players up, but because it really IS a negative influence on that poor kid

I think you're hugely overestimating how easily people are influenced, I've played violent games all my life and it hasn't made me any more violent as a person, if anything I've become far less violent in the past few years. I guess you also think that playing GTA makes you a murdering rapist? :dry:

 

[Codz]

theres a reason it says "18" no the box, you shouldnt buy games like that for children younger than 16 at a push, not because it winds older players up, but because it really IS a negative influence on that poor kid

to quote a line from Ok Go:
"War became a job"

thats what'll happen if people start playing warfare games as young as 7-8 years old. you grow up with that stuff and you'll become a violent person whether you realise it or not

*it actually affects all of us, but children are more prone to adapting from behaviours they observe, since they are still developing their personalities at a basic level

It really depends on the person. For the most part people understand they are just games and use them as a source of entertainment. I've played violent games since I was around 10, and I could never even think of harming another person unless it was ABSOLUTELY neccesary.

 

[mojoey]

pfft, come on, Ive played violent video games most of my formative years, and im mostly 'normal'. games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Battlefield, and many others used to be a symbol of the 'greatest generation'... after the games went modern, it was more of a thing for small children to play, most who were old enough to understand what the games were portraying, were in the thick of it. Ive never harmed anyone that didnt ABSOLUTELY 100% deserve it. If i ever have kids, id tell them, 'what you do in that video game, you DO NOT do it outside of that televisison or monitor, unless your life or the lives of others are in danger. As long as you have decent grades, and you get a good exercise everyday, im fine with you playing those type of games.' There's a certain cut-off limit to the minimum age one should be allowed to play these video games. I can almost guarantee you, I can walk into gamestop, and purchase Gears of War 3 (chainsaws+guns= ^O^) and im 16. I believe that the ESRB rating is M+ (17 and up) so, when you see school shootings that were the result of a seven year old killing his classmates because he thought it was a game, you can impose stricter rulings. Until that point, the ratings will be what they are, the content will be what it is, and people will always be killing people.

 

[Codz]

Ive never harmed anyone that didnt ABSOLUTELY 100% deserve it. .

Unless he was threatening your life or the lives of others no one deserves to be hurt.

 

[mojoey]

there's a story, that was dug up tonight, and i darn near decked someone for saying that the victim brought it on themselves. I didnt, but we all feel like doing it sometimes.

 

[mojoey]

EXACTLY what the title says, this is mostly being started because the BF3 thread went way off topic. So, argue away:thumbup:

 

[Pyromaniac605]

I really don't notice video games influencing people, and even if they do, it only with really young kids (As in less than 5 or 6) and it's no more influential than TV or movies.

I've been playing "violent" games for as long as I can remember and I'm not a violent person at all, I've never gotten into physical fights at school or anything. :dry:

 

[mojoey]

me neither, i mean after the GTA: San Andreas 'hot coffee' incident, the govt. went nuts trying to 'protect our children!!!' Ive never been really violent. Aside from one or two schoolyard fights, ive been pretty under the radar...

 

[Ark]

Personally, if you can't tell the difference between games and real life, you have serious underlying psychological issues. I may have slaughtered more virtual Nazis than the actual war claimed, but that doesn't change the fact that I have yet to harm one actual, physical human being.

 

[Codz]

The key is you just have to know that games like Call of Duty or GTA or any other violent game is just that; A game.

 

[Artlav]

It seems that violent games and TV shows can seriously affect the children only if combined with gross negligence by the parents, who keep the kid occupied with playing computer games and watching TV all the time instead of paying attention to him.

From there it could go anywhere - from a social recluse with three Lv85 elves in WoW (i.e. games is most of his experience), to a grand bully who kick other kid's heads until they start playing by his rules (i.e. parents do anything for him and games show violence as a great option).

In any case there is so many factors in there beyond the simple games-are-bad.

 

[Codz]

From there it could go anywhere - from a social recluse with three Lv85 elves in WoW (i.e. games is most of his experience), .

Not everyone is a social type of person. Whether you play games or not won't change that.

 

[Artlav]

Not everyone is a social type of person. Whether you play games or not won't change that.

Sure there is some inherent pre-disposition, but it's the environment that makes the man.

In an extreme example, most healthy people can talk, but if a child is never taught how to talk in most cases he will never learn it, or only pick up a dozen words. And if he don't talk by about 10, it's already too late to teach him.

One may be socially pre-disposed, but with nobody to talk to this won't be developed. Similarly, a reclusively disposed type could learn to socialise quite easily if it's imminent for keeping on living.

On the other head, a non-social kind of person is likely to fill his time with something else. It could be productive, like science, all kinds of constructive hobbies, career building, etc. Or it can be computer games.
It's within parent's responsibility and capability to divert the kid's attention one way or another.

 

[Codz]

Sure there is some inherent pre-disposition, but it's the environment that makes the man.

In an extreme example, most healthy people can talk, but if a child is never taught how to talk in most cases he will never learn it, or only pick up a dozen words. And if he don't talk by about 10, it's already too late to teach him.

One may be socially pre-disposed, but with nobody to talk to this won't be developed. Similarly, a reclusively disposed type could learn to socialise quite easily if it's imminent for keeping on living.

On the other head, a non-social kind of person is likely to fill his time with something else. It could be productive, like science, all kinds of constructive hobbies, career building, etc. Or it can be computer games.
It's within parent's responsibility and capability to divert the kid's attention one way or another.

I agree with most of this, but I and many other people simply don't like to go out with other people for extended amounts of time. I like my friends but I'd probably do something I'd regret if I spent more than 2-3 days with them.

 

[Pinguinboy]

It's not the game that makes you violent, it's the way how you got fed up, and if you are insane enough or not.

 

[mojoey]

ive had that happen, going 10-32 K/D on a game before and youre like 'WTF? like wtf just happened?*rage quit*'

its going to get to a point where video games and war will be the same, shoot the US Army already has several video games out.

 

[insanity]

I have largely the same opinion about violent video games that I have with movie ratings. The age limits are arbitrary and exist so that kids don't access content their parents might not want them to. Personally, I'm fine with that, though.

That is not to say I'm one of these ban violent game types. I have no problem with a well-adjusted kid who can contextualize the difference between reality and a game and understands that actions outside the game have far greater moral/legal repercussions. Most of us have that skill pretty early in life, but some of us don't. Personally, by the time I was 10, I could separate violence in the media from the way you are supposed to actually act towards your fellow human beings.

It's also true that the source of your income as a child is often your parent, and if your parents don't want you to play games with objectionable content, then that is their prerogative to ensure you don't.

At the end of the day, I think the bigger issue is that we are far more okay with allowing our kids to blow stuff up letting them learn anything real about sex and love.

 

[Pyromaniac605]

its going to get to a point where video games and war will be the same, shoot the US Army already has several video games recruitment tools out.

Fixed.