News Air Canada Flight AC837 incident over Madrid

[Urwumpe]

There is a ongoing situation at the airport of Madrid, a 767 of Air Canada had a burst tyre and an engine malfunction during take-off, the aircraft is currently circling over Madrid to reduce the landing weight while a F-18 of the Spanish airforce is inspecting the damage. They are preparing an emergency landing at Madrid right now.


The aircraft is a Boeing 767-300, without the non-standard fuel dump capability. The aircraft was supposed to fly from Madrid to Toronto, burning the fuel for emergency landing can take some hours, which means that the landing will take place at night. Not the best situation.




The aircraft made it quickly into the news because it was flying unusually low over Madrid.



https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ac837#23be1953


https://www.morgenpost.de/vermischt...kreist-ueber-Madrid-offenbar-beschaedigt.html

 

[GLS]

On final now....

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On final now....

Nevermind, wrong plane... :facepalm:

 

[4throck]

Flightradar24 seems to be down.

A link to Spanish tv live news:
http://www.rtve.es/noticias/mas-24/

 

[Urwumpe]

The emergency landing is scheduled for 19:30 CET, about 25 minutes into the future.

 

[GLS]

The emergency landing is scheduled for 19:30 CET, about 25 minutes into the future.

Apparently it has already landed...

 

[Urwumpe]

Apparently it has already landed...

Yes, just also got the news right now.

 

[IronRain]

Video of the landing in this article: https://nos.nl/artikel/2321499-geha...-na-uren-cirkelen-veilig-terug-in-madrid.html

 

[Linguofreak]

Nitpick: The thread title makes this seem much worse than it was: "Accident" in colloquial English implies an actual crash, and the ICAO definition is that there must be death or serious injury to a person onboard, structural failure or serious damage to the aircraft, or the aircraft must go missing or otherwise become inaccessible.

 

[Urwumpe]

Nitpick: The thread title makes this seem much worse than it was: "Accident" in colloquial English implies an actual crash, and the ICAO definition is that there must be death or serious injury to a person onboard, structural failure or serious damage to the aircraft, or the aircraft must go missing or otherwise become inaccessible.

What is the better term? Emergency?

 

[tl8]

What is the better term? Emergency?

Incident


https://avherald.com/h?article=4d2d213f&opt=0


Boring I know, but a lot of aviation is that.

 

[Linguofreak]

What is the better term? Emergency?

The official terms are going to be "emergency" while the event is in progress and the aircraft is receiving special attention from ATC (especially given that whether it will ultimately be an "accident" or "incident" is in principle in doubt until the last person leaves the aircraft), and "incident" after the fact.

Colloquially "emergency" can be to strong for some scenarios (many procedural emergencies are precautionary and don't involve immediate severe danger), and "incident" can be too weak for others (if the situation did in fact involve immediate severe danger). In the case, for instance, of a hijacking that was resolved without injury to anyone on board or damage to the aircraft, "incident" might come across as euphemistic to the general public, and even for people familiar with the ICAO language would tend to seem weak. I'd probably just say "hijacking" for such an event.

On this board, where the official terms are likely to be understood, "emergency" is probably fine for an event in progress, and "incident" or a brief description of the situation for an event already resolved.

 

[Mantis]

My cousin was on board that plane. She had been in Germany and Spain for the past week or so and was flying back today. Very scary. Apparently the flight crew was great and the passengers all remained calm while they spent a lot of time circling to burn off fuel. She said it was a bit of a media circus. Police and airport security did a great job of keeping the media at bay and eventually the airport got them all fed and accommodated.

 

[Donamy]

Small world.