General Question Building Things (Attaching)

[blane]

Hi,

I'm in the process of building my first station but I seem to lack some basic things. For example, I have the Solar Modules for ISS (http://www.orbiterfrancophone.com/index.php?disp=addons&id=10) and let's say I want to attach a Neesys (http://www.orbiterfrancophone.com/index.php?disp=addons&id=24).

In the scenario the panels (they are already attached to each other) look like this:

BEGIN_SHIPS
P3P4:MBR_ITS/mbr_its34
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 4523190.09 1603.44 -5351418.86
  RVEL 5758.981 4.404 4872.441
  AROT -135.07 8.99 -26.12
  VROT 0.06 -0.04 -0.04
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  SOLP 0 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
END
P5:MBR_ITS/mbr_its5
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 4523190.09 1603.44 -5351418.86
  RVEL 5758.981 4.404 4872.441
  AROT -135.07 8.99 -26.12
  VROT 0.06 -0.04 -0.04
  ATTACHED 2:0,P3P4
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  SOLP 0 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
END
P6:MBR_ITS/mbr_its6
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 4523190.09 1603.44 -5351418.86
  RVEL 5758.981 4.404 4872.441
  AROT -135.07 8.99 -26.12
  VROT 0.06 -0.04 -0.04
  ATTACHED 3:0,P5
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  SOLP 0 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
END
END_SHIPS

The Neesys comes like this:

BEGIN_SHIPS
Neesys:Neesys
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 4802341.21 -1303615.44 -4579543.11
  RVEL 1385.992 -6740.075 3377.559
  AROT 0.00 0.00 0.00
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
END_SHIPS

So what are the proper steps to connect the modules (Not talking about actual EVA/Missions but in terms of how to find the correct attach points etc.); for instance, how fo I find the correct attach points? If anyone can give me some pointers on this, I'd appreciate it very much.

 

[Napalm42]

If you're asking about connecting the panels to the Neesys, it's simple. All of the MBR_ITS components are treated as vessels. For a scenario, all you do is take P3P4, and dock it to the Neesys. If you're not sure on which, spawn Neesys and attach a DG or something to it, find the port you like, and then copy that docking line to both Neesys and the DG. replacing the names of course.

 

[Ark]

Yep, just dock it with the scenario editor at a port you like. Even though a port isn't modeled, it still has one defined in the config file.

Though, it'll look a little goofy. Consider getting the whole ISS truss package and using that.

 

[blane]

Thanks for the replies. It's probably that I am still confused about the technical difference between "docked" and "attached". Would I need to dock these modules? I assume that plays a role regarding UMMu capabilities.

Also, "whole ISS truss package" what addon are you exactly referring to? Again, Thanks.

 

[Napalm42]

"Attached" only really applies to the P5 and P6 sections, they're more for holding it onto something, like the Shuttle bay for example. "DOCKED" will restrict EVA usage and the like.

 

[Ark]

Every object in an Orbiter scenario is a vessel. Attachment points simply tie them to each other. Docking ports mean they show up as docked in the scenario file, can transfer crew with UMMU, and can be undocked with Ctrl+D. Attachment points are defined as parent and child points, where only the opposites can attach. Docking ports can dock to any available port. Most station construction is done by docking things, while attachment points are used for things like placing payload in a shuttle bay.

http://www.orbiterfrancophone.com/index.php?disp=addons&id=56

 

[Napalm42]

:hesaid:

That's a better expanation.

 

[blane]

Awesomeness

That probably just answered all additional questions I would have had. Thank you, sir. :tiphat: