Scenario DeltaGlider-IV and Earth textures off position

[elephantium]

I downloaded the DG-IV and tried playing some of the scenarios. My problem is that the DG-IV starts out about a hundred feet off the runway.

Could anyone give me some pointers on how to fix that?

 

[MaverickSawyer]

Define "off the runway." To me, that says altitude.
IIRC, this is a common bug, due to the coordinates not quite lining up properly. You'll have to tweak the scenario file in a word processor program to adjust your placement.

 

[Cras]

the culprit I BELIEVE is that these scenarios were made for Orbiter 2006, and in Orbiter 2010, a more accurate KSC is implemented, causing the action you see.

 

[elephantium]

@MaverickSawyer: I mean west of the runway, at rest, on the ground.

How do you make the coordinates line up correctly? Would I have to edit every .scn file under Scenarios/DeltaGliderIV/ (if so, oi)?

Looking under DeltaGliderIV/Earth Scenery/Landed KCS departure to ISS.scn, I see a block:

GL-01eltaGliderIV
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -80.6858943 28.5906644
HEADING 330.02
RCSMODE 2
PRPLEVEL 0:0.995 1:1.000 2:0.983
IDS 0:45 100
NAVFREQ 94 524
XPDR 0

I'm guessing I need to tweak the POS parameter (and maybe the HEADING), but I'm not sure how to weak that parameter. Is it pretty much "guess and check", or is there a way to calculate exactly what changes would need to be made?

Thanks!

 

[Scav]

You can adjust the ground position via the scenario editor.

 

[orb]

1. In Orbiter Launchpad select "Modules" tab.
2. Check the checkbox for "ScnEditor" module (it's in "Tools and dialogs" group).
3. Launch your scenario.
4. Press Ctrl+F4 keys.
5. Double click on "Scenario Editor".
6. Select your vessel.
7. Click "Edit..." button.
8. Click "Location" button in the "On the ground" group.
9. Enter these parameters for "Surface position":
   • Longitude:
     -80.682594
   • Latitude:
     28.596924
   • Heading:
     330.010020
10. Click on "Apply" button and close the Scenario Editor.
11. Your vessel is now at the beginning of runway 33.

 

[elephantium]

Thanks, guys!

How are the coordinates determined? I saw another runway a bit further south at the Cape that I'd like to try out, but it seems a bit time-consuming to try to tweak the starting coordinates bit by bit until I stumble across the right ones.

 

[Tommy]

Coordinates are standard Longitude and Latitude.

If you look at the coordinates in the scenario editor, and there's a couple sets of arrows. One set is for "rough" adjust and the other is for "fine" adjust. Just use an external view and click and hold the arrows to move the vessel.

 

[PhantomCruiser]

That runway to the south is Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. And just a bit further south is Patrick AFB. If I can, I'll get you the coordinates for them once I get home.

 

[orb]

How are the coordinates determined? I saw another runway a bit further south at the Cape that I'd like to try out, but it seems a bit time-consuming to try to tweak the starting coordinates bit by bit until I stumble across the right ones.

You can go to http://maps.google.com/ and search for KXMR. It will find you the CCAFS airstrip and place a marker at the center of it. Now if you right click on the either end of the runway (for example at the designation mark in satellite view), by choosing "Directions from here" and "Directions to here" at the other end, you can get coordinates for both ends in "A" and "B" text fields, which should be very close to those in Orbiter (could be different by only few meters). If you have Google Earth, you can do the same, and even get more precise heading than just from the runway's designation. Similarly, you can get coordinates for the other end of the KTTS runway (SLF - RWY15).

KXMR 13: Lat.: 28.475745, Lon.: -80.578461
KXMR 31: Lat.: 28.459442, Lon.: -80.554735

I haven't tested it in Orbiter, so you may need to tweak them a little.

 

[PhantomCruiser]

For CCAFS, for Orb's directions, but use these numbers...

POS -80.5775940 28.4751340
HEADING 128.00