Falcon 9 at Cape Canaveral

Why can't they launch from the same site where Falcon 1 launched.

Falcon 9 is something different than Falcon 1. It is intended to service the ISS, and who knows, even with crews, which will be under the lead of NASA. And they've got a great Launch Complex from the Air Force at the Cape.

If you are interested in space flight, patience is what you need all the time :cheers:
 
For some reason I have a feeling that when this finally launches, it'll probably fail.
 
Delay after June 10th is pretty likely IMO..

I'm putting my bets on June 15th.
 
From Spaceflight Now:

The earliest the Falcon 9 rocket could blast off from Cape Canaveral is June 2, as the Air Force and Federal Aviation Administration continue reviewing the vehicle's flight termination system.

A SpaceX spokesperson announced the new target date late Tuesday, but the Falcon 9's ultimate appointment on the Air Force Eastern Range will depend on the conclusion of the paperwork reviews and other launch traffic at the Cape.

Ken Wong, manager of the FAA's licensing and safety division, said the agency issued SpaceX a commercial launch license for the Falcon 9 rocket earlier this year.

But the FAA and the Air Force are both responsible for the safety of the public and third-party property that could be put at risk during the launch.

"What we're doing is we're reviewing some test documentation related to the flight termination system to ensure compliance with FAA licensing requirements," Wong said in an interview Tuesday.

Air Force officials were not available for comment Monday or Tuesday.

Wong said the issue is with several components of the destruct package, which includes linear-shaped charges along the length of the rocket. If the booster flew off course during launch, safety officials could trigger the mechanism to destroy the rocket before it threatened people.

SpaceX says it is working with Ensign Bickford Aerospace and Defense Co. to resolve the issues and gain approval for launch. Ensign Bickford is the prime supplier of the Falcon 9 flight termination system.

Wong declined to identify the specific parts under the most scrutiny, and he would not estimate when the reviews could be finished.

"If you have a vehicle which has launched several times, where you have a flight termination system that has already completed qualification testing, then in subsequent launches, you would not have as many test-related issues with the flight termination system," Wong said Tuesday.

"In the case of Falcon 9, where you have a new vehicle with a new flight termination system, that's why you get a lot more of these testing issues and things that have to be reviewed," Wong said.

Launch and landing activity at the Cape has range assets booked this week and in parts of early June, further complicating SpaceX's plans to debut the 15-story rocket.
 
Something's wierd about this. It's a bomb with a radio attached, this sort of thing's been put on every space launch vehicle since the 50s. What's the holdup, and why are they being so secretive?
 
Something's wierd about this. It's a bomb with a radio attached, this sort of thing's been put on every space launch vehicle since the 50s. What's the holdup, and why are they being so secretive?
And, most importantly--this being a SpaceX rocket, do they even need the termination system in the first place? Don't they usually terminate themselves?
 
My guess is the Air force doesn't want to get stuck using the Falcon 9, they want their own boosters.
 
Elon Musk: “I ran out of cash”:
http://venturebeat.com/2010/05/27/elon-musk-personal-finances/

According to the filing — part of his pending divorce case from sci-fi novelist Justine Musk — Elon Musk has been living off personal loans from friends since October 2009 and spending $200,000 a month while making far less. Musk confirmed this in an interview with VentureBeat.

And throughout Tesla’s history, Musk has used his entrepreneurial legend — Zip2, sold for $305 million to Compaq; PayPal, sold to eBay for $1.5 billion — to bolster his credibility as a technology executive. Musk’s personal take from Zip2 was a reported $22 million, much of which he invested in his next startup, PayPal, netting $160 million when eBay bought the online-payments startup. According to filings in his divorce trial, he had roughly $48 million in income from his investments between 2005 and 2008. But he sunk much of that money back into Tesla, as well as his other enterprises, the space-exploration concern SpaceX and solar panel finance startup SolarCity.

His finances were not always so strained. In other documents filed in the divorce case, Musk reportedly made $9,551,753 in 2008 and an average of $17.2 million a year from 2005 to 2008. As of Dec. 31, 2008, he also had extensive holdings in venture capital and private equity partnerships, ranging from Softbank Technology Ventures to Charles River Ventures to Clarium Capital. These partnerships, however, tend to be highly illiquid investments: It can take months to get out of them because you have to find a sophisticated buyer willing to bear the risks of a private sale.

As he ran low on cash, a contentious divorce — in which his ex-wife, Justine Musk, is seeking a sizable chunk of Musk’s holdings — caused him more financial problems. Justine Musk is asking a court to rip up a post-nuptial agreement she and Elon Musk signed in March 2000, which could in theory lead to much of his holdings being deemed community property. While there’s no telling how the case will turn out — it has already gone to appeal — more important is the protective order the court has slapped on Musk’s holdings in Tesla and his other illiquid assets. These include his stakes in private equity funds. He won’t be able to sell significant holdings without first getting permission from his ex-wife. And he has also been ordered by a court to continue paying her legal fees for the duration of the lengthy appeal process.
 
Wonder if he had to ask his ex-wife if he could be in Iron Man 2?

At any rate, I hope Falcon 9 does get off the ground and flies well in spite of Musk's financial difficulties and the Air Force stalling. What a boost (pardon the pun) that would be for the private spaceflight sector.
 
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And, most importantly--this being a SpaceX rocket, do they even need the termination system in the first place? Don't they usually terminate themselves?

Unlike NASA, not even one time with seven people onboard...

SpaceX is not less successful than NASA during its early days. They already launched a commercial satellite into orbit. And I think that's what the Air Force makes hold one's breath, especially now that even NASA and the Oval Office is going to bet on commercial space flight.
 
Elon Musk: “I ran out of cash”

I don't think that's going to be a problem for him. I mean, if frickin' Twitter can get funding for years, with absolutely NO business model in place, I think SpaceX (and whatever else Mr. Musk creates) will be just fine.
 
Well, the Patrick Air Force Base site still lists a launch window from 11:00-15:00 EDT June 4th. Here's hoping the launch date stays put. I haven't heard anything official about a launch date slip beyond that.
 
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