Halo

[Overmind5000]

No one has probably thought of this, but if any expert addon makers see this: Make vehicles from Halo. Land vehicles are not required, but I was hoping of the pelican, Seraph, longsword, banshee, phantom, covenant cruisers, UNSC cruisers, hornets Sparrowhawks, every flyable halo vehicle that can go into space. I will be waiting.

 

[MajorTom]

Very interesting one.

Why not the Halo world...similar to Niven's Ringworld? I suppose it's a dumb request...the darn thing's FAR larger than any planets appearing in Orbiter.

I was going to suggest the physics engine would have to be rewritten, but perhaps not...anywhere inside the ring, and the grav. forces would all cancel each other out, wouldn't they?!

 

[spcefrk]

I think the gravitational forces would be pretty slim and they would only cancel in the dead center of the ring. Any deviation from the center would accelerate you further in that direction.

Let's say you treat the ring like a compass rose. If I sit in the center of the compass and slide due east, the gravity from north and south cancel each other, but the acceleration due to gravity from the west decreases as the square of my distance increases and the acceleration from the east (in the direction I'm already moving) increases as the square of my distance from it decreases.

I realize this is a little difficult to illustrate with words, but draw out a compass rose, Accelg=G*m_ringsegment/(r^2), and a slightly offset position toward the east and it should be pretty clear what happens. If you want to be really spiffy about it, you could pull out some integration using the mass of an infinitesimally small dr segment of the ring, but it's too late at night for me to really worry about such things...

 

[MajorTom]

Spcefrk,

I was referring to this one. It's for a shell, not a ring, but I imagine it would be largely the same effect within the plane of the ring...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/mechanics/sphshell2.html#wtls

 

[Dman1410]

That idea sounds great i'v been waiting for something like that to come out

 

[spcefrk]

Spcefrk,

I was referring to this one. It's for a shell, not a ring, but I imagine it would be largely the same effect within the plane of the ring...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/mechanics/sphshell2.html#wtls

Wow a shell would be interesting. I think it should be pretty much the same effect, but the integral in that link says otherwise. I'll need more sleep before I go about looking at that to see if it's got any errors. Conceptually, it seems to me that the closer to any differential wall segment you are, the more its mass will pull on you and likewise the further away you are the less it will pull on you. It seems to me that you will accelerate toward the walls rather than be in some gravity neutral space.

 

[simonpro]

Nope, it's one of the proofs that Newton came up with: A particle inside a hollow sphere will experience no net gravitational force from that sphere.

Hallo!

Good to meet you

 

[As-Sa'iqa]

There was quite an expansive project underway a couple of years ago by computerex and unnamed coder, there should be some info on the old forum. It was never released however, and I don't know if anyone still has the source code. Though I agree, the capital ships in particular would work well.

 

[computerex]

Yep, project got canceled. Pillar of Autumn along with a cruiser..

Long Sword:

Halo

HEV (Human Entry Vehicle, Halo 2 cinematic) drop

In Amber clad docked to a station:

warp

It's a shame the project got canceled. All the ships could warp, the stations could shoot stuff at light speed, Long Sword had bombs, etc.

 

[Jebusy]

computerex that looks class....why did it get cancelled?

 

[Dman1410]

yeah all the vehicles look wicked:speakcool: although the 'In Amber Clad' could do with being textured

 

[Linguofreak]

Wow a shell would be interesting. I think it should be pretty much the same effect, but the integral in that link says otherwise. I'll need more sleep before I go about looking at that to see if it's got any errors. Conceptually, it seems to me that the closer to any differential wall segment you are, the more its mass will pull on you and likewise the further away you are the less it will pull on you. It seems to me that you will accelerate toward the walls rather than be in some gravity neutral space.

Yes, you do get more pull from the segments on the side you're closer to, but there are fewer segments on that side of you and more on the opposite.

 

[Overmind5000]

Yep, project got canceled. Pillar of Autumn along with a cruiser..

Long Sword:

Halo

HEV (Human Entry Vehicle, Halo 2 cinematic) drop

In Amber clad docked to a station:

warp

It's a shame the project got canceled. All the ships could warp, the stations could shoot stuff at light speed, Long Sword had bombs, etc.

Yo dude, If you can find any more about the experiment, who made it, why they cancelled it, that would be great. Let me know. I'll be waiting. :beach:

 

[James.Denholm]

computerex (the guy who posted the screenies) was one of the developers.

computerex, that looks awesome... Why did you and the "unnamed coder" cancele it? Do you still have the sauce?

 

[Hielor]

Why not the Halo world...similar to Niven's Ringworld? I suppose it's a dumb request...the darn thing's FAR larger than any planets appearing in Orbiter.

Ringworld was far larger than any planets appearing in Orbiter, but I thought Halo was much smaller (ie, on the order of the diameter of a small moon)

computerex, that looks awesome... Why did you and the "unnamed coder" cancele it? Do you still have the sauce?

Real programmers don't use programming languages; they use different kinds of sauces.

I personally prefer Tartar, especially for programming of aquatic vessels.

 

[tblaxland]

I personally prefer Tartar, especially for programming of aquatic vessels.

I prefer Sea++.

 

[James.Denholm]

Ringworld was far larger than any planets appearing in Orbiter, but I thought Halo was much smaller (ie, on the order of the diameter of a small moon)

That's my opinion as well! The first cinematic from Halo 1 clearly shows that.

Mind you, I've never played Halo 3, so the Halos in that one might, just might be huge. Unlikely, though.

Real programmers don't use programming languages; they use different kinds of sauces.

I personally prefer Tartar, especially for programming of aquatic vessels.

And the world gets stranger.

 

[Overmind5000]

dude...

hielor, Halo is about the same Diameter as earth, say like 10,000 kilometers. I saw it on halopedia. here's the link:
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_04

 

[ar81]

Not sure, but I think that copyright issues might arise if Halo addons are made...
I would prefer to ask for permission to Microsoft before releasing an addon.
If you get their permission and you explain them that it is just for spacecraft simulation (missing feature in Halo) purposes and not for FPS purposes (unloyal competition), they could see it as "free advertising" instead of "copyright violation".

Who knows, if you make this addon, you could even end up getting a job at Mircosoft some day.

Do you feel scared about trying to penetrate into the bureaucracy of a corporation? Do not worry. Think that your idea will be rejected thefirst 4 times you present it to different people there. Employees of corporations are not good to deal with unusual affairs. So you better contact their legal department and ask for permission. If you get no answers from them, contact marketing and tell them that it could help to promote Halo, and also if you have no reply, try to contact gaming and development departments of the organization. Else knock other doors inside the organization, and eventually one will be open. Never give up, never surrender.

One word of advise... always behave like an ambassador. Think of manners. Avoid "hello pal" kind of conversation, since you are a serious developer.

 

[Overmind5000]

good point. -_-