General Question How do you know how you approach a planet?

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How do you know how you approach a planet retro-grade or pro-grade? Is it like if you approach the planet from the right side that you approach the planet in retro-grade?

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it is pretty easy to tell when you use the Ecliptic view point, then the technique I use is more or less the same as you describe except I imagine clock and anti-clockwise from the equator, because "approaching from the right" doesn't have any real meaning to me :lol:
 
If you get your Inclination to zero for the planet you encounter, I would think that means you are in a prograde, equatorial orbit. I am not positive on this, perhaps someone could correct me if I am wrong. :tiphat:
 
Inclination is a good clue, use equatorial frame on the planet you are approaching. Inclinations between -90 degrees to 90 degrees are prograde, Inclinations over 90 or under -90 are retrograde.
 
I'm still getting my head around a lot of this stuff, but relative to the equator an inclination of 0 would be an orbit exactly along the equator prograde, 90 would be a polar orbit straight up from South pole to North pole, 180 would be exactly along the equator but now going retrograde. So if you split the directions on a circle representing an eastward rotating planet viewed from the side, using "clock face" terminology:

Equator runs from 9:00 to 3:00. 3:00 is 0 degrees (prograde equatorial orbit), sweeping counterclockwise 12:00 is 90 degrees. So orbits between 0 and 90 degrees are prograde, although I guess 90 would really be perpendicular). Continuing the counterclockwise sweep from 12:00 / 90, 9:00 would be 180 degrees - retrograde equatorial. Past that "upper half" of the "clock face" inclination range I find it a bit confusing as I guess you start counting is as -179 to -90 (6:00) and back towards 0. I'm not entirely sure of that as I don't think I've seen an orbit displayed that way yet in my limited time in Orbiter. Take these other guys word for it, they are far more experienced than I but I hope I at least got this right.

One more thing that really confused me at first: the prograde autopilot seems to always orient the planet to the left of the screen relative the the "upright" viewpoint of the spacecraft. Keep in mind that "prograde" in this case means relative to your orbital plane, NOT whether it's prograde or retrograde relative to the planet. So when you're orbiting the Earth and hit prograde, the surface is to your left and all the continents are upright like you would see them on a typical map. The standard Orbit MFD also always shows your graphical orbit of a planet in a counterclockwise direction, regardless of whether you're orbiting prograde or retrograde. So you have to pay attention to the Inc value. If it's in the retrograde range, you have to imagine that you're looking at the visual orbit plot from underneath the planet rather than above it. If you make a moon flight for example and enter into a retrograde orbit, and engage the prograde autopilot, it will again orient the surface to the left of your viewpoint. Except that in this case South is UP and you are actually flying upside down along your orbital path. It's all just a matter of perspective but I personally found this very disorienting at first, my brain just wants to see the planet in a conventional North is up, South is down frame of reference. So if I'm in a retrograde orbit and use the autopilot to orient prograde, I then usually bank 180 degrees to put the planet on my right so my visual reference is "correct". At least in a retrograde orbit the Map MFD will scroll right to left, which helps to get your bearings.
 
At least in a retrograde orbit the Map MFD will scroll right to left, which helps to get your bearings.

MapMFD will also scroll to the left in a prograde orbit IF your orbital altitude is higher than Geostaionary (ie, orbital period is longer than the planetary rotational period). That's why the Moon appears to travel from east to west even though it is in a prograde orbit.
 
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