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GregBurch
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Amen, brother.
tl8
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hmmm, I don't think I like that person any more.
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If there really are a lot of christian ads on their busses, this is absolutely warranted.
But still, in my opinion, atheism should behave like any religion should. And that means leaving people alone and let them seek their own believes without anyone telling them what is true and what is not.
But still, in my opinion, atheism should behave like any religion should. And that means leaving people alone and let them seek their own believes without anyone telling them what is true and what is not.
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I think religious posters attacking atheism and vice versa should be avoided. Even though freedom of speech is important, remember that peoples' core beliefs are being belittled by such things. Even though it's just a poster, it still stings.
Also, there seems to be a misconception here. Most religious people don't sit around and brood about God all day. Research indicates that spiritual individuals are less susceptible to depression than those who are less spiritual, though being over-religious can lead to a host of other disorders.
Eh, I'm veering off track. To summarize, these posters are unnecessary and a little stupid, but if these people think they can do the world some good by putting them up, have fun.
Also, there seems to be a misconception here. Most religious people don't sit around and brood about God all day. Research indicates that spiritual individuals are less susceptible to depression than those who are less spiritual, though being over-religious can lead to a host of other disorders.
Eh, I'm veering off track. To summarize, these posters are unnecessary and a little stupid, but if these people think they can do the world some good by putting them up, have fun.
GregBurch
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I honestly don't understand the negative reaction. Religions advertise. In doing so, they are asserting 1) the existence of a (their) god or gods and 2) that their group has at least one true set of beliefs and practices relating to that god or gods. These are truth assertions in the form of "there is an 'X' and our group has true knowledge about 'X'." They also often, if not usually contain the explicit or implicit assertion that joining their group or at least sharing their beliefs will confer some benefit on those to whom the assertion is aimed.
Now, it so happens that many (again, if not most) religions contain as part of their set of beliefs the assertion that their views regarding their god or gods are the only correct, i.e. true ones. So almost any assertion of religious faith -- even the mildest form -- is likely to offend some other religious person's "core beliefs," isn't it, since the "A" group making assertions about their religion will conflict with the beliefs of the "B" group? If that is the case, and giving religious offense is to be avoided, shall we prohibit any public assertion of religious belief?
Now, it so happens that many (again, if not most) religions contain as part of their set of beliefs the assertion that their views regarding their god or gods are the only correct, i.e. true ones. So almost any assertion of religious faith -- even the mildest form -- is likely to offend some other religious person's "core beliefs," isn't it, since the "A" group making assertions about their religion will conflict with the beliefs of the "B" group? If that is the case, and giving religious offense is to be avoided, shall we prohibit any public assertion of religious belief?
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Christians will argue that they have an evangelical mandate, known as the "Great Commission":
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That would be realy bad and will only lead to more extremists.
If anyone is offended by the believes of someone else, that is their own problem. As it is mine, but I usaly manage to divert my energy into a civilized discussion. Unfotunately many people don't.
Which is in principle a very noble thing. I would never think any less of anyone because he/she is trying to spread their believe.
It is a pitty that the believe to believe in the one true believe (*) mixed with said mandate has led, and still is, some people to use unfriendly methods.
A phenomenon observed throughout human history, spanning over all religions.
* What a sentence...
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One could argue that the posters are agnostic because they say 'Most likely', as opposed to there isn't. 
The negative reaction will come for the same reason that religion became a factor in politics in the 1980's. Reaction to a perceived threat against one's culture.
I doubt there will be much of an issue besides some mandatory shouting matches.
As for the atheism issue itself. Not touching it.:leaving:
The negative reaction will come for the same reason that religion became a factor in politics in the 1980's. Reaction to a perceived threat against one's culture.
I doubt there will be much of an issue besides some mandatory shouting matches.
As for the atheism issue itself. Not touching it.:leaving:
Why would anybody be so insistant on shoving their relegious ( or non-religious) opinion down everybody's throat ?
I respect their atheist believes,however THEY should also respect that other people believe otherwise and thus not try to "offend" people by these type of statements on sides of public transport ( which is used by many different type of believers and non-believers).
Respect everybody's individuality and keep your opinion to yourself unless your asked to share it I'd say.
I respect their atheist believes,however THEY should also respect that other people believe otherwise and thus not try to "offend" people by these type of statements on sides of public transport ( which is used by many different type of believers and non-believers).
Respect everybody's individuality and keep your opinion to yourself unless your asked to share it I'd say.
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Well... I kind of liked those "ads", we constantly get bombed with religious propaganda messages, most of them directed to young people. I find it kind of funny that when Atheists (non-theists, agnostics, whatever they may be) "preach" their message, they are met with a "keep your opinions to yourself" kind of attitude, whereas religious ads are apperently fine.
tl8
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Some quick Stats for you to ponder (I am Chirstan and no, you don't have to be if that is what you want).
33% of the world is Christan, 21% of the world is Islamic. Therefore before we even leave the top 2 religions, half the world is at least religious in some way.
Next is 16% "Nonrelgious" and 14% are Hindu.
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
You should also note that most religions do not directly advertise. There are only a handful of denominations that 'demand' it. These include 7th Day Adventists, JWs, AOG(To some degree) and several other more unorthodox denominations.
Although that said, the sign is rather funny and total useless.
33% of the world is Christan, 21% of the world is Islamic. Therefore before we even leave the top 2 religions, half the world is at least religious in some way.
Next is 16% "Nonrelgious" and 14% are Hindu.
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
You should also note that most religions do not directly advertise. There are only a handful of denominations that 'demand' it. These include 7th Day Adventists, JWs, AOG(To some degree) and several other more unorthodox denominations.
Although that said, the sign is rather funny and total useless.
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I think we are safe, the Blasphemy Law was abolished this year. Later than I thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_the_United_Kingdom
Don't know about bendy-buses though...
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Exactly. Although I believe that some of what Dawkins is saying is very true it still is not our place to tell religious people they are wrong.
I think there should be an equal number of buses with 'There probably is a God' just to even things out.
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You do know, that deism is even worse for the established religions as atheism? As long as they can't be sure, it is their god, they have to suspect you are believing into the wrong one.
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You do know, that deism is even worse for the established religions as atheism? As long as they can't be sure, it is their god, they have to suspect you are believing into the wrong one.
In that case maybe all the buses should read 'There probably is a God' on one side and 'There probably isn't a God' on the other, with another slogan on the back saying 'You're never going to know for sure, give up.'
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