Problem Playback of Recorded Scenario stops

[rcraig42]

While playing back recorded scenarios with the Velcro Atlas V, the Playback stops at around 140 seconds after launch.

The rocket keeps flying, and I can take over the controls, but the "Replay" message on the screen disappears and it no longer updates the position and rotation of the vessel.

The message shows "Recording" throughout the launch to Orbit until I turn it off when I record it.

 

[boogabooga]

How long SHOULD the recording last?

 

[rcraig42]

How long SHOULD the recording last?

Not sure exactly, but it's a pretty long Centaur burn, and replay stops long before the booster is done, so probably about 10 minutes (600 sec).

It's happened several times already since I started with the Velcros.


I've recorded hour+ XR2 suborbital flights so this shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe there's some throttling going on based on the size of the Flights Folder? Or is it another problem with Velcro?

 

[boogabooga]

Is it possible that you accidently stopped the recording at 140 seconds?

Try to record the flight again.

What you describe sounds like standard behavior to me. IIRC, after a playback is finished, you get control back to keep going in the scenario, if you wish.

Anyway, you keep posting all over the forum your troubles with velcro.

A possible activity for you for fun and profit would be to make multistage implementations using the existing meshes.

IMHO BrianJ's multistage Atlas V is a better representation of Atlas V than Velcro EELVs. You can work with the .ini and .cfg to add your own payloads. See for example:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=489634&postcount=281

You can get meshes for the SRBs and the 500 series fairing from this add-on:
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5277"]JUNO - GEP New Generation[/ame]

Just be careful with the permissions if you upload anything.

 

[rcraig42]

Is it possible that you accidently stopped the recording at 140 seconds?

Try to record the flight again.

What you describe sounds like standard behavior to me. IIRC, after a playback is finished, you get control back to keep going in the scenario, if you wish.

Anyway, you keep posting all over the forum your troubles with velcro.

A possible activity for you for fun and profit would be to make multistage implementations using the existing meshes.

IMHO BrianJ's multistage Atlas V is a better representation of Atlas V than Velcro EELVs. You can work with the .ini and .cfg to add your own payloads. See for example:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=489634&postcount=281

You can get meshes for the SRBs and the 500 series fairing from this add-on:
JUNO - GEP New Generation

Just be careful with the permissions if you upload anything.

Well that first is not possible, as I said in my first post, it shows "Recording" the whole time, and it keeps happnening, probably about 5 times now.

I guess I'll probably have to switch, I was hoping this wasn't a Velcro problem, that someone else had seen this and there was an orbiter based fix for it. I just haven't taken the time to try something else again to see what happens.

btw It was just this, the auto engine cutoff, and that undocumented scn entry that I've been "posting all over the place" about. And the last wasn't a problem, just a request for information.

The performance seems pretty accurate, Not getting any ridiculous results like I did with that other, very pretty add-on.

The PLA wasn't a problem either, just another request for information that might save me some work and re-learning.... but then again, I kind of like to 3d model, just not to reinvent the wheel. And it's pretty generic, pretty sure I can use them with anyone's VLV.

 

[Tommy]

I'm not that familiar with Velcro, but have an idea. Sounds like this is a "staged" vessel, is it possible that used stages get deleted after separation? Often with staged vessels you start in control of the first stage, the control is transfered to the second stage after separation, etc. Before you start recording, try manually changing to the final stage/payload vessel, start the recorder, then transfer back to the first stage.

No guarantee, but worth a try.

 

[rcraig42]

I'm not that familiar with Velcro, but have an idea. Sounds like this is a "staged" vessel, is it possible that used stages get deleted after separation? Often with staged vessels you start in control of the first stage, the control is transfered to the second stage after separation, etc. Before you start recording, try manually changing to the final stage/payload vessel, start the recorder, then transfer back to the first stage.

No guarantee, but worth a try.

Well it was sorta like that, strangely in this case it was the SRB's that were set to destroy themselves, even though I never had focus on them, the Velcro module does some weird stuff to just add their thrust and fuel to the first stage.

I removed the line in their config file that tells it how long till destruction after jettison (60 seconds... pretty much exactly when the replay stopped) and Voila, everything is fine again. I have enough headroom that I'm not worried about a couple empty SRB's laying on, or skidding across, the ocean stealing resources.

It was only after I did that that I actually understood what you were suggesting I try... oops.

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IMHO BrianJ's multistage Atlas V is a better representation of Atlas V than Velcro EELVs. You can work with the .ini and .cfg to add your own payloads. See for example:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=489634&postcount=281

You can get meshes for the SRBs and the 500 series fairing from this add-on:
JUNO - GEP New Generation

Thanks for the links, I didn't quite understand how to put his scenario and config files together (from that thread link), and I got a hard crash whenever I tried to run it... didn't even leave an error in the log to give me a clue. And yes I saw your post and his fix, and downloaded the fairings and put them where he said.

But at the very least I got a really good LC41 out of all that stuff... that I happened to be looking for. I had even started working on fixing up kev33's that he had adapted from his earlier Titan version. Don't need to finish that now.

 

[SolarLiner]

The flight recorder never records new vessels appearing during the flight. So either the issue is controlled within the vessel module and acts accordingly during playback, or the parts might get deleted when ejected.
I learned that the hard way, when I wanted to record a EVA flight with UMmu. (They never got out ...)

So that might be very well that because you are focused on a stage that will get separated, and because in Orbiter you don't "detach" a stage, you delete it from parent and than re-create it on its own, the recording gets cut off at separation because suddenly Orbiter records something that wasn't there in the first place.