Gaming Space Engineers (now in BETA)

[orb]

I'm a little concerned about security implications of the code--what limitations are imposed on it?

AFAIK, some time ago there was a post or a link to article in a post about whitelisted classes/methods/interfaces/functions which can be used by mods, and I've seen recently some posts in the Steam hub requesting whitelisting some additional classes, functions or methods, so I think there are some constraints set to what can be done with those scripts, but I haven't played SE for some month now to test anything of it yet.

 

[Artlav]

I'm a little concerned about security implications of the code--what limitations are imposed on it?

Huh?
I would have expected them to have more sense than to actually compile and run the code externally.
Just pick or make an interpreter and run it inside your own in-game VM, and security issues vanish at their root.
It's also so much simpler to do it that way, rather than to carry a whole compiler/linker/library pack along with your game, that i wouldn't have expected anyone to even consider the unsecure option.

 

[Lucy]

I'm a little concerned about security implications of the code--what limitations are imposed on it? If (for example) I'm hosting a Space Engineers server, would it be possible for someone to do malicious things via this code?

No, there are several restrictions outlined in the guide.

 

[Urwumpe]

Also, for modding, you also use C# modules... you could pretty sure place some bad code there...

 

[Quick_Nick]

Also, for modding, you also use C# modules... you could pretty sure place some bad code there...

I think the difference is that you should know ahead of time what's in the mods you put on your server, but you don't know what's in the scripts of someone randomly joining your server.
I trust all security issues will be handled though.
Currently, there seems to be a simple exploit to get around many limitations due to a lack of sanitation.
http://forums.keenswh.com/post/exploit-custom-classes-namespaces-and-static-methods-7225801

 

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Update 01.064

Update 01.064:

 

[Quick_Nick]

Update 01.064:
Space Engineers - Update 01.064: Sensor ownership recognition, View distance settings - YouTube

They didn't mention in the thumbnail or title that they also made significant fixes/changes to the programmable block in this update.

 

[orb]

A spin-off game has been announced:
http://www.medievalengineers.com/medieval-engineers---announcement.html

 

[Urwumpe]

The more interesting source about it:

http://blog.marekrosa.org/2015/01/medieval-engineers_22.html

He explains a lot about why medieval engineers, why now and what he also thinks can be a good synergy between the two games... and also about the impact it has on Keen...

 

[Hielor]

Oh hey look, Yet Another Medieval Sandbox Game! Aren't there already like ten of them on Steam?

At least this one's alpha release video looks more complete than several of the others are several years on...

 

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Update 01.065

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Update 01.066

Update 01.066:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pq-R3WDVbM"]Space Engineers - Update 01.066: GPS, Text panel, Mod sorting - YouTube[/ame]

 

[MaverickSawyer]

THANK GOD!

 

[Quick_Nick]

THANK GOD!

lol! GPS has been in mods forever now. But it is good to have official support now.

 

[RisingFury]

THANK GOD!

It is a sad, sad addition to the game. It basically does what the debug screen does in Minecraft.

 

[Gerdih]

I got some questions for you guys:

Is this game already enjoyable on multiplayer?

if Yes.

Is Orbiter Forum already having a server for the multiplayer?

if Yes.

Is the server like the Minecraft one? Or does the rules include fights and looting? (since they are more awesome here than Minecraft)

That's all I need to know to start thinking on buying this

 

[RisingFury]

I got some questions for you guys:

Is this game already enjoyable on multiplayer?

if Yes.

Is Orbiter Forum already having a server for the multiplayer?

if Yes.

Is the server like the Minecraft one? Or does the rules include fights and looting? (since they are more awesome here than Minecraft)

That's all I need to know to start thinking on buying this

As far as fights go in this game... you spend 10 hours making a warship, then 5 minutes in a fight to wreck it.

 

[Gerdih]

I guess the point is to get a benefit, isnt it? you got a damaged ship but hours of material from another user

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[RisingFury]

I guess the point is to get a benefit, isnt it? you got a damaged ship but hours of material from another user

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Generally the fight ends when one ship gets so heavily beaten that its engines, reactors and weapon systems are completely destroyed on the side that was facing the fire.

After you "defeat" the enemy ship, it takes a significant amount of effort to capture it. As far as resources go, it's better to just make a giant drilling ship and start mining asteroids on a massive scale.

 

[Gerdih]

Well, as all sandboxes games imagination is the main factor on this things.

The possibilities are numerous. You can construct a giant base with a team, you can form a pirate band, you can be a miner and trade...

Maybe when you defeat an enemy you can just take,(or dock with yours?) the ship and take it to your base, or the main base of the server, who knows ( being certain bases safe zones? -> rules ) And then there you can take the resources from it.

I just imagine, I dont know if this game is complex as minecraft. For comparasion: Imagine beating a ship with a chest full of diamonds!!! ajajajaja

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