Discussion Space Shuttle Vessel - Payload Development Thread

[DaveS]

This is what I have on the SSP for the PAMs:

 

[Tiny_Bob]

This is what I have on the SSP for the PAMs:

what document is this from?

 

[DaveS]

This one: https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2439&context=space-congress-proceedings

 

[Tiny_Bob]

This one: https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2439&context=space-congress-proceedings

ayyy from my college haha. thanks

 

[Tiny_Bob]

There you go. I'm pretty sure I have a diagram somewhere showing that the PAM keel trunnion is one PLID aft of the forward longeron trunnions. Plus, it certainly looks like that:

just a test mesh, but that makes everything happy:



Side note, it seems that once you get to bays 12 and 13, the keel latch is higher up then the previous bays

 

[Tiny_Bob]

This one: https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2439&context=space-congress-proceedings

looking at this in more detail, its got a good bit of detail on the procedures since the checklists are not accessible.

 

[gattispilot]

I don't know if one could build a PAM vessel. Where you had the PAM structure in the Payload Bay and the controls as a mesh inside the cockpit?
Maybe a control window to control the PAM,....

 

[Tiny_Bob]

I don't know if one could build a PAM vessel. Where you had the PAM structure in the Payload Bay and the controls as a mesh inside the cockpit?
Maybe a control window to control the PAM,....

I was thinking that we could replicate the SSP like they do for R13L for the default Atlantis, but that SSP isnt really used for the main events regarding the PAM deploy. the GPCs and SCA do most of that.
From the document that Dave sent:


the SSP has the backups for deployment, but it doesn't have everything

 

[gattispilot]

Oh, Yes a SSP could be made. The hard part is telling the switches and talkback what/when to do things. I think to do a PAM?ASE vessel that based off of the mission could be done. Basically change the ASE texture to allow the different makers labels.
It looks like the SCA controls the sunshield

 

[Tiny_Bob]

Oh, Yes a SSP could be made. The hard part is telling the switches and talkback what/when to do things. I think to do a PAM?ASE vessel that based off of the mission could be done. Basically change the ASE texture to allow the different makers labels.
It looks like the SCA controls the sunshield

yeah and the mechanical sequence is started by the astros from the GPC keyboards, so we need that software as well. Im not sure if you can have external modules have a DPS display or if it has to be edited into the SSV source

 

[GLS]

I already mentioned this, but I have done some work for the PAMs, the displays and SSP panel, but that all depends on the v2.0 work still going on, so it has to wait.
Meanwhile, all that can be done (external to the project) is an independent vessel PAM cradle.

 

[Tiny_Bob]

does anyone have good diagrams for the spacelab pallet?

 

[GLS]

does anyone have good diagrams for the spacelab pallet?

There is a Spacelab document from the late 70s (more than one version actually) with all the dimensions.... I don't have it right now, but I think I linked to it here before.

 

[GLS]

does anyone have good diagrams for the spacelab pallet?

Search online for "Spacelab Payload Accommodation Handbook"

 

[Tiny_Bob]

That spacelab document is a live-saver. If only we had that documentation for the rest of the HST hardware...
Anyhow the Rigid Array Carrier is in works:

(Ignore the DFI's those are there since I had to count latches for the other payloads)

Working on STS-109, which will be done with HST-EX

 

[DaveS]

I've had STS-109 in the works for some time, but decided to pause work on it as for proper operations I need DPS access and all three SSPs (L12 and L12U) as well as advanced control of the CCTV system for the FSS Berthing Camera.

 

[Tiny_Bob]

I've had STS-109 in the works for some time, but decided to pause work on it as for proper operations I need DPS access and all three SSPs (L12 and L12U) as well as advanced control of the CCTV system for the FSS Berthing Camera.

did you have any good references for the hardware or just what could be found online?

 

[DaveS]

Bit of both, primary references were the HST SM3B and SM4 Cargo Systems Manuals (CSMs):