News The Lost H bomb

[jstowe96]

It couldn't detonate without its live atomic core.

Actually there were explosives still in the bomb but the Nuclear core wasn't in the bomb at that time.

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F-18s crashing into F-86s? F-86s carrying nuclear bombs?

I think there is a critical research error there somewhere...

No because the F-18's sqaudron that was coming from the back of the f-86's were going in to just protect them, but one of the f-18's radar malfunctioned and only saw the lead f-86 bomber, which wasnt carrying the bomb, so the f-18 plane dived down and crashed into the right wing of the f-86.

 

[garyw]

Impossible since the F-18 wasn't in service in 1966.

The incident you are refering to is the Tybee Island B-47 crash.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Tybee_Island_B-47_crash

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No because the F-18's sqaudron that was coming from the back of the f-86's were going in to just protect them, but one of the f-18's radar malfunctioned and only saw the lead f-86 bomber, which wasnt carrying the bomb, so the f-18 plane dived down and crashed into the right wing of the f-86.

No. Not true. F-18's and F-86's will only ever been seen together at airshows.

 

[RisingFury]

The nuke was actually only half of it and it never blew up on impact, this was really long time ago back after like WWII even farther around 1966, the f-86 was bringing this bomb somewhere but since the f-18 fighter jets radar malfunstioned it crashed into the f-86 carrying the bomb, the bomb was armed to be a nuke because the other half which was at some base Forgot were, but that was the core of the Hydrogen bomb. The plane was flying over georgia i believe when the f-18 crashd into it. The pilot took emergency steps to rescue the crew, and had to land on a nearby runway. He dropped the bomb into the ocean atleast 6-12 miles off the coast of georgia and the water acted as a somewhat cusion and the sand is what cusioned the fall of the bomb and it never exploded. The US has been searching for over 7 years and never found it.

Those this answer some of your questions. If not then ask away and by the way This was on the Military Channel.

F-18's and F-86's? That's only like 20 years and a few generations difference...

 

[jstowe96]

Im not sure exactly what fighter plane was protecting the f-86, but that's what happened. Ill look that up now.

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Gary wikipedia isnt always the best search provider because anyone can edit an article and make it fake.

 

[garyw]

Im not sure exactly what fighter plane was protecting the f-86, but that's what happened. Ill look that up now.

Please.

Gary wikipedia isnt always the best search provider because anyone can edit an article and make it fake.

Then I'll refer you to the other links on the Tybee island incident I have posted.

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From IRC:

(00:05:26)<Jstowe96>http://www.alternet.org/environment..._pentagon_has_lost_the_mother_of_all_weapons/
(00:05:32)<Jstowe96>Right there thats what happened
(00:05:52)<Jstowe96>and it was in 1958
(00:06:03)<Zatman>And there was no F-18
(00:06:06)<Jstowe96>and b-47 flew with the f-86's

So, case closed and we were all right! :lol:

 

[Hielor]

Gary wikipedia isnt always the best search provider because anyone can edit an article and make it fake.

Except that it's better than whatever you're using, apparently...

See the "F" in front of "F-86"? Know what that means? "Fighter," not "bomber."

 

[tblaxland]

See the "F" in front of "F-86"? Know what that means? "Fighter," not "bomber."

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-86#Specifications_.28F-86F-40-NA.29

Armament:
...
Bombs: 5,300 lb (2,400 kg) of payload on four external hardpoints, bombs are usually mounted on outer two pylons as the inner pairs are wet-plumbed pylons for 2 × 200 gallons drop tanks to give the Sabre a useful range. A wide variety of bombs can be carried (max standard loadout being 2 × 1,000 lb bombs plus 2 drop tanks), napalm bomb canisters and can include a tactical nuclear weapon.

That said, the "lightweight" Mark 15 weighed 3450 kg, so the F-86 was not going to be carrying that bomb.

 

[Hielor]

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-86#Specifications_.28F-86F-40-NA.29



That said, the "lightweight" Mark 15 weighed 3450 kg, so the F-86 was not going to be carrying that bomb.

Well, yes, most fighters are capable of carrying small bombs, but jstowe had referred specifically to "bombers" several times before deciding that this incident had actually happened at an airshow between an F-18 and an F-86

 

[Salun]

He lays the English language. It lived a long and wonderful life, leaving behind two children. American English and Ebonics. Rest in peace. You will be remembered and Missed. 100AD~2010AD

 

[Ghostrider]

He lays the English language. It lived a long and wonderful life, leaving behind two children. American English and Ebonics. Rest in peace. You will be remembered and Missed. 100AD~2010AD

... His name is Robert Paulson.

 

[movieman]

The palomares incident they were on a training mission to practice for a real bomb on the soviet union so why would they put a live atomic core on it for a simple training mission.

Wasn't there a story recently about maintenance workers discovering that a B-52 had been flying around with live nukes when it was supposed to be carrying inert training warheads? I seem to remember that it had been parked empty and (relatively) unguarded for several hours at the airfield before anyone noticed.

I believe there are several other missing nukes which are too deep in the ocean to track down and probably unusable by now; at the least AFAIR a bomb was dropped off of Vancouver in the 50s or 60s, and the Scorpion had nuclear torpedoes on board when it sank.

 

[Izack]

I believe you're thinking of this:
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident"]2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Slice N Splice]

Hey guys I'm watching the Military Channel and The US government is searching for the lost H bomb the size of a small struck that can wipe out 100,000+ Citizans and an entire city. They said it all happened when an f-86's Radar malfunctioned and only saw 1 lead bomber escorting the H bomb, so the f-86 hit the right wing of the Bomber carrying the H bomb and so had to drop the bomb to save the plane and it's crew, it landed of the coast of georgia, and landed safely somehow in the ocean. The bomber occasionaly made it safely.

The bomb also weighs 1.5 megatons.

And what happens if this monster gets in a freak accident and detonates?

 

[garyw]

It can't. Dentonation of a nuclear warhead requires a very precisely controlled set of conventional explosives to send the core critical.

One of the six safety systems is called the hardlink/softlink system. It is actually designed so that in a freak accident (big wave hitting it, the bomb hitting the ground) the softlink explosives will detonate rendering the bomb useless.
You also have to remember that the bomb can't be armed without the codes being entered in the PAL system (another of the six safeties).

The chances of an accidental nuclear detonation are very remote indeed.

 

[movieman]

I believe you're thinking of this:
2007 United States Air Force nuclear weapons incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That looks like the one!

 

[orbitingpluto]

You also have to remember that the bomb can't be armed without the codes being entered in the PAL system (another of the six safeties).

This reminds me of the fact that the air force set all the codes to 00000000 when the PAL system first went into use. The idea was to make it so if a missile had to be fired, no damn code would hold things up(what with finding the code of the day or whatever). Still seems boneheaded to me.

Plus its the kind of code an idiot would use on his luggage:lol:. Couldn't they make it 07041776 or something?

 

[Ghostrider]

Couldn't they make it 07041776 or something?

No, that's Lindsay Lohan's mobile.

 

[garyw]

This reminds me of the fact that the air force set all the codes to 00000000 when the PAL system first went into use. The idea was to make it so if a missile had to be fired, no damn code would hold things up(what with finding the code of the day or whatever). Still seems boneheaded to me.

Plus its the kind of code an idiot would use on his luggage:lol:. Couldn't they make it 07041776 or something?

Well, how about that. I have the same combination on my luggage! (spaceballs?)

Better than the UK. At one point all our nuclear warheads were protected by bicycle locks....

 

[orbitingpluto]

No, that's Lindsay Lohan's mobile.

I never knew! What a patriotic phone number!
(hint hint, American history,hint hint. Though is that sarcasm your using? I can't tell.)

Well, how about that. I have the same combination on my luggage! (spaceballs?)

Yeah, it was a Spaceballs reference. I actually have luggage with a 000000 code on it(and one with 12345). Safe to say I have only used those for storing things about the house.