I am just saying that it is not impossible that something happend up there that we wern't supposed to know about.
That is already your own logical fallacy. because you think A is not impossible, and there is no evidence for A being impossible, A must be true.
I do however wish to ask anyone who has put that above question to me..
Do you believe everything you hear from your government? YOu have accused me of swallowing what i have read very quickly yet you ahve essentially done the same.
No, there is one important difference. Many of us for example know what spaceflight is about. We have engineers here and aerospace technology students. So, people here can evaluate the facts presented on a website.
I don't believe anything my government tells me, but I also believe that the stuff, I don't know, is caused by human weaknesses and not some sort of strange multi-national agenda.
Laziness and corruption are the strongest driving forces in anything my government did without telling me about it, before it got covered up.
I know that conspiracy theory's are easy to come up with because people like to believe that the Big-brother government is really against them. But remember we are dealing with politicians. people who lie and cheat and tell you what you want to hear so that you vote for them in the next election.
as well as directors of organisations such as CIA whose joba and reputation may depend on certain information becoming public.
Yes - and when one director looses his job, somebody else has the chance to get his job. Ever thought so far in your conspiracy mind? Oh yes, all are lying to the public, but not among themselves. How pathetic! If a director could get fired by only exposing that NASA is faking the moon landings, guess how many people will take the chance - many. Not even in the department, but other departments will also take the first chance to claim power and funds.
But it is easier to believe, that the politicians and bureaucrats join forces against the public right?
Aside from that, most democracies have "official secrets acts" which allow governments to withold information from their people in the interests of national security. Who is to say that politicians who are untrustworthy to begin with, would not find a way to manipulate this law for their own personal agenda.
It is simple. It does happen that these acts are abused. But not for covering up technology or historic events. Also not by politicians. Simple Bureaucrats are usually the worst kind of people for violating transparency rules.
But again, remember my rule: If it happens, it happens out of human weaknesses. Politicians want to cover up, who paid the bill for his new car. Bureaucrats want to hide, that they gave the contract for building the road to their brother, without following proper procedures.
Im not stupid, i know that keeping a lid on (was it quoted somewhere here 400,000?) people involved in the project would be difficult. But remember at the end of the day there were only three people in space, and the talked to one person on the ground.
Please repeat: I have no clue on real spaceflight and promise by the book of Newton, that I will change this in the next three weeks.
Three people in space is correct, but they did not talk to only one person. That is really stupid. Only one person (CAPCOM) has the right to talk directly to them, to avoid confusion, but all people in mission control are listening. Then, next, there are many shifts, not just always the same group of persons during a mission.
Finally: This what the astronauts talk got also recorded by:
- Onboard recorders (CVR)
- magnetic tape on the ground in mission control.
- magnetic tape on the ground in all TV stations broadcasting this.
That's why I posted the link to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. It contains transcripts of these recorders and you can verify the data rather quickly with other sources.
I dont beleive everything i read on the net but i want people to admit that there is at least the posibilty that their government could be capable of lying to them about what really happend.
No. My government is even incapable of lying in their own favor. Single politicians can lie and keep secrets, maybe even a full department for a short time (whistleblowers are eveywhere). But a government, made of many different interests and own agendas? Have you ever read the newspaper lately?
If Apollo would be faked for lot's of money by the department of science (or how it was called), while the DoD is requiring lot's of money for war in Vietnam, how long do you think will it take somebody from DoD to expose this charade? Or any other department.
