The most important people of the 20th Century

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Who would you choose?
1. Albert Einstien
2. Yuri Gagarian
3. Adolf Hitler
4. Winston Churchill
5. Joseph Stalin
6. Dwight D. Eisenhower
7. Neil Armstrong
8. John F. Kennedy
9. Pope John Pual II
10. Bob Hope
11. Nikola Tesla
 
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He's a good addition, but I'd put him above Bob Hope;)

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So did Buster Keaton, but he kept quiet about it...

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I vote for Otto Hahn. His discovery really had an effect on the 20th century as much as it has today. Also he founded one of the largest scientific organizations in the world, the Max Planck Society (which together with its predecessor, the Emperor Wilhelm society, earned more Nobel Prizes with it's supported scientists as any other scientific organization)

But Einsteins scientific work and political acting is also pretty important.

Hitler on the other hand is pretty wrong in the list. He was just the leading figure of a group of misfits. If you would have shot him, the next would have crept out of its swamp.

And where is Lenin? Some would sure like to see him in the list...instead you have Stalin, who just benefited from Lenins work.

Also the Astronauts are also wrong. All of them had been just the peak of the iceberg behind large space programs. And their contribution was very limited. Wernher von Braun for example had more personal influence on the spaceflight, but even he did not do it alone.
 
I vote for Otto Hahn. His discovery really had an effect on the 20th century as much as it has today. Also he founded one of the largest scientific organizations in the world, the Max Planck Society (which together with its predecessor, the Emperor Wilhelm society, earned more Nobel Prizes with it's supported scientists as any other scientific organization)

But Einsteins scientific work and political acting is also pretty important.

Hitler on the other hand is pretty wrong in the list. He was just the leading figure of a group of misfits. If you would have shot him, the next would have crept out of its swamp.

And where is Lenin? Some would sure like to see him in the list...instead you have Stalin, who just benefited from Lenins work.

Also the Astronauts are also wrong. All of them had been just the peak of the iceberg behind large space programs. And their contribution was very limited. Wernher von Braun for example had more personal influence on the spaceflight, but even he did not do it alone.

Hitler may of been an idiot, but when he started WW2, that took the world in a whole different direction it was going, the astronauts and cosmonauts i chose them not just becuase there astronauts and cosmonauts, Neil took part in the X-15 program, Yuri didnt really do much except the first person in space. If i did the most important gunie pigs of the 20th century i will probaply choose those two guys. Stalin, he made Russia of what it was, without him, we might still be at war with Nazi-Germany.
 
Marie Sklodowska Curie I think. She discovered two radioactive elements. Might be Dmitrij Iwanowicz Mendelejew too. He arranged elements in right order and he didn't know anything about elements.
 
Hitler may of been an idiot, but when he started WW2

He did not start WW2 alone - there had been many more people involved. The demonification of Hitler is one of the worst things historicist ever did. Instead of really looking for the mechanics behind it, they just created a monster to blame. If you look really at the facts about Hitler, all that is left is a guy who was good at talking, an elite of power-hungry cultists, which hid behind him, and a whole mass of industrials, nobles and scientists, who pushed this group into power for their own motives - from fighting the communist fever at that time in favor of unleashed capitalism to plain restoration of monarchy and feudalism.
 
Why them?

Elvis Presley is an important icon of the 20th century, not only in the musical scene but on the cultural one as well. JRR Tolkien defined fantasy literature as a genre, Gary Gygax pioneered a new kind of game genre which is also successfully used as psychotherapy (incidentally, it actually works which is a first for psychotherapy). Wozniak designed the Apple ][ which was the first wildly successful personal computer, paving the way for the whole home computer revolution. Federico Faggin was a central figure in the design of the early microprocessors.
 
Rather than looking at the ten most important people I'd look at the ten most important events: And then try to find which person was most important to each event.
That way the process is simplified somewhat (although it does rule out artists, writers etc).

Here's my views, but note that I'm not putting these in any particular order.

A) World War I
Reshaped the european political landscape and redefined how wars were fought.
B) World War II
Reshaped the entire world's political landscape, and changed the course of the rest of the century.
C) Cuban Missile Crisis
The closest moment to armaggedon during the cold war. Showed the strengths and weaknesses of both sides, and their leaders.
D) Fall of the berlin wall
A symbol of the end of communism in Europe and Russia.
E) October revolution
The beginning of the Soviet Union, one of the dominant powers of the century.
F) First powered flight
Began a complete revolution in both transportation and warfare.
G) First mission to the moon
An example of the technological advances achieved during the 20th century.
H) Detonation of the first atom bomb
The signal of yet another kind of warfare, and of a new way of generating power.
I) Civil rights marches
Announced major changes in the democratic process, giving women and various minorities equal rights.
J) Decline of the British Empire.
Changed the lives of billions of people in Africa, India, Australia and other countries.

Now, for the people associated with each of these:
A) Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
His death sparked the war.
B) Adolf Hitler.
Yes, he was only one of many who were involved, but he was the most prominent, and the actions of him and his colleagues led to the war.
C) Oleg Penkovsky.
Provided crucial information to the west, at the cost of his life.
D) Christian Fuhrer.
Wasn't quite sure who to select here (there's so many), but I selected him on account that he was one fo the main organisers of the 1989 demonstrations that eventually led to the opening of border crossings and destruction of the wall.
E) V. Lenin.
Led the revolution in Petrograd and began a series of changes to his country, turning it into one of the wrold's most powerful.
F) The wright brothers.
Successfullly constructed and flew the first powered aircraft, and continued flying it for some years.
G) John F Kennedy.
While he may not have actually piloted the craft, or helped in it's construction what he did do was provide the political vision to begin the Apollo programme. I think it's safe to say that without him ther'ed have been no moon landing in 1969.
H) J. Robert Oppenheimer
Scientific director of the atom bomb project.
I) Martin Luther King.
Stood up in the face of substantial opposition and was a voice to those without rights.
J) Harold McMillan.
His winds of change speech announced a significant change in the way the British governed their empire, and paved the way for independance to be granted for large parts of the world.
 
Mostly politics so far. Of course, that is important. But what about the artists? The people that wrote the books, painted the paintings and wrote the songs that inspired entire generations.

Artists such as Bob Dylan and John Lennon created and sustained a cultural revolution that opposed the Vietnam War, perhaps pressuring the leaders and decision makers of their time to, at least be more inclined, to shift the US's sights from fighting the War in Asia, and instead taking men to Moon.
 
Isn't it weird to ask who is the most important?
Also, why is for example Gagarin in the list? He was sitting inthe Vostok 1 but it could have been someone else... >_>
 
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