US Airways Jet crashes in Hudson River

I think that Young is a cool guy on the whole (just like Armstrong too), not just for particular missions. I doubt he was nervous on his first mission. Young had enough flying experience and did some crazy altitude records before he became an astronaut.
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV-TpaUwAkg"]YouTube - US Airways Flight 1549 - Video Shows Crash Landing[/ame][ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtUhB5gFEsQ"][/ame]
 
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Oops theres really Spam... Video changed.
BTW, I just saw on the news that the engines are searched and the recovery of the plane is running.
 
See? I told you there'd be footage somewhere.

OMG this is FAKE!!!

Just youtube comments style ;) And people already start to think and write that the media is telling lies "once again" because flight 1549 was brought down by islamic terrorsists :rolleyes:
 
Would the birds have commited suicide like that if they weren't Islamic terrorists? :P

I'm getting an image of a Canada goose in an explosive vest.
 
We Americans are such wimps. Every incident involving a jetliner is "ZOMG it's a terrorist attack!" It's so embarrassing.

About a month after 9/11/01 I was on a transcontinental Amtrak train and there was a power failure in one of the rail cars. Kid you not, this one woman with a hysterical look in her eye started asking, "Is it the terrorists? Is it the terrorists?"

Silly. Sheltered.
 
I must confess that I've sometimes had such reactions myself. Even today I was in downtown Dallas, and with Love Field nearby there are planes flying fairly low over the tops of buildings (probably not too low, actually, I imagine at least 500 to 1000 feet, but it still *looks* close), and the thought "Oh no! That plane's gonna fly into that building..." crossed my mind at least once today, and I know there have been times in the past when I've been downtown and had that thought with practically every plane that flew over.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090118/ap_on_re_us/plane_splashdown

Click on the photo in this link and it will show a neat slideshow of the work to lift the aircraft from the water.

Crews hoist ditched plane from Hudson River

By LARRY NEUMEISTER and DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writers

NEW YORK – Salvage crews hoisted a battle-scarred US Airways jetliner from the Hudson River and onto a barge late Saturday, three days after its pilot made what he told investigators was a split-second decision to attempt a water landing to avoid a possibly "catastrophic" crash over populated areas.

Much of the top half of the aircraft appeared as though it might be ready for takeoff — a stark contrast with the charred-looking right wing, and the destroyed right engine, which appeared as though the outside had been peeled off.
An emergency slide still hung from the plane; nearby, a compartment door was open, with some luggage still visible inside. A gash extended from the base of the plane toward the windows. And in places, the skin of the aircraft was simply gone.

After a day struggling with the icy waters and the immense weight of the craft, the mood on the shoreline turned festive with the successful operation. Following the long work to secure the plane, people shook hands and investigators took snapshots, while police helicopters hovered overhead.

Crews later retrieved the plane's black boxes, which were filled with fresh water, packed into blue coolers and were to be sped immediately to Washington.

Earlier Saturday, Capt. Chesley B. "Sully" Sullenberger told investigators in the few minutes he had to decide where to set down the powerless plane Thursday afternoon, he felt it was "too low, too slow" and near too many buildings to go anywhere else, according to the National Transportation Safety Board account of his testimony.

The pilot and his first officer provided their first account to NTSB investigators Saturday of what unfolded inside the cockpit of the US Airways Flight 1549 after it slammed into a flock of birds and lost power in both engines.
Co-pilot Jeff Skiles, who was flying US Airways Flight 1549, saw the birds coming in perfect formation, and made note of it. Sullenberger looked up, and in an instant his windscreen was filled with big, dark-brown birds.
"His instinct was to duck," said NTSB board member Kitty Higgins, recounting their interview. Then there was a thump, the smell of burning birds, and silence as both aircraft engines cut out.

The account illustrated how quickly things deteriorated after the bump at 3,000 feet, and the pilots' swift realization that returning to LaGuardia or getting to another airport was impossible.
With both engines out, Higgins said, flight attendants described complete silence in the cabin, "like being in a library." A smoky haze and the odor of burning metal or electronics filled the plane.
The blow had come out of nowhere. The NTSB said radar data confirmed that the aircraft intersected a group of "primary targets," almost certainly birds, as the jet climbed over the Bronx. Those targets had not been on the radar screen of the air traffic controller who approved the departure, Higgins said.
After the bird impact, Sullenberger told investigators he immediately took over flying from his co-pilot and made a series of command decisions.

Returning to LaGuardia, he quickly realized, was out. So was nearby Teterboro Airport, where he had never flown before, and which would require him to take the jet over densely populated northern New Jersey.
"We can't do it," he told air traffic controllers. "We're gonna be in the Hudson."
The co-pilot kept trying to restart the engines, while checking off emergency landing procedures on a three-page list that the crew normally begins at 35,000 feet.
Sullenberger guided the gliding jet over the George Washington Bridge and looked for a place to land.

Pilots are trained to set down near a ship if they have to ditch, so they can be rescued before sinking, and Sullenberger picked a stretch of water near Manhattan's commuter ferry terminals. Rescuers were able to arrive within minutes.
It all happened so fast, the crew never threw the aircraft's "ditch switch," which seals off vents and holes in the fuselage to make it more seaworthy.

After the hard landing, the crew's third flight attendant — the only one in the rear of the aircraft — made the decision not to open the back exits, she told NTSB investigators Saturday, the day she was released from the hospital.
Before she could get the rearmost passengers headed for the front of the plane, one woman managed to open one of the doors a crack, letting water into the cabin. Only once they were by the front exit did the flight attendant feel woozy and realize she had a deep laceration in her leg.

The NTSB said sonar teams may have located the sunken left engine of the plane. Preliminary radar reports identified an object directly below the crash site. Divers originally thought both engines were lost, but realized Saturday that one was still attached. The water had been so dark and murky that they couldn't see it.

The investigation played out as authorities released the first video showing the spectacular crash landing. Security cameras on a Manhattan pier captured the Airbus A320 as it descended in a controlled glide, then threw up a spray as it slid across the river on its belly.
The video also illustrated the swift current that pulled the plane down the river as passengers walked out onto the wings and ferry boats moved in for the rescue.
Authorities also released a frantic 911 call that captured the drama of the flight. A man from the Bronx called at 3:29 p.m. Thursday, three minutes after the plane took off.
"Oh my God! It was a big plane. I heard a big boom just now. We looked up, and the plane came straight over us, and it was turning. Oh my God!" the caller told 911.

At almost the same moment, the pilot told air-traffic controllers that he would probably "end up in the Hudson."
Sullenberger was seen entering a conference room of a lower Manhattan hotel, surrounded by federal investigators, before his interview Saturday. The silver-haired pilot was wearing a white shirt and slacks and seemed composed.
When a reporter approached him for comment, one of the officials responded: "No chance."

NBC said "Today" show host Matt Lauer would interview Sullenberger from Washington on Monday, a day before President-elect Barack Obama is inaugurated.
His wife, Lorrie Sullenberger said "the enormity of the situation" had only begun to sink in Friday night as she watched the news.
"It was actually the first time that I cried since the whole incident started," she said on "The Early Show" on CBS. She also said the family was making plans to attend the inauguration.
She suggested the happy ending was good for the country.
"I think everybody needed some good news, frankly," she said.

Experts say the threat that birds have long posed to aircraft has been exacerbated by two new factors over the past 20 years: Airline engines have been designed to run quieter, meaning that birds can't hear them coming, and many birds living near airports have given up migrating because they find the area hospitable year-round.
Canada geese, one of the most dangerous birds for aircraft, historically migrate not because of cold but a lack of food. Winter weather kills the grass they eat and sources of fresh water freeze over.
But in developed areas, there is often both food and grass year round, found in parks and golf courses.

And there isn't much that be done in the engineering of jet engines to armor them against a strike without hurting their ability to generate thrust.
The most vulnerable part of the engine is the fan, which can be bent or smashed by an ingested bird. Pieces of busted blade then rip through the rest of the engine like shrapnel.
Engines have been fortified so that they can stay intact in the event of such a strike, but they usually cannot be restarted once they are damaged, said Archie Dickey, an associate professor of aviation environmental science at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University's campus in Prescott, Ariz.
He said hits hard enough to cause a total failure are rare, only happening two or three times a year worldwide.
"That's extremely rare," Dickey said. "The chance of it hitting both engines, I'd guess it is less than 1 percent."
Most bird strikes happen within five miles of an airport, lower than 1,000 feet, as planes are taking off or landing. Aircraft hit thousands of birds every year, but they usually bounce off harmlessly.
The US Airways flight hit the birds at 3,000 feet, the NTSB says. That caused a total engine failure, and the plane hit the river 3 1/2 minutes later.
"Brace! Brace! Head down!" the flight attendants shouted to the passengers.
Then, they were in the water. Two flight attendants likened it to a hard landing — nothing more. There was one impact, no bounce, then a gradual deceleration.
"Neither one of them realized that they were in the water," Higgins said.
The plane came to a stop. The captain gave a one-word command, "Evacuate."
___ Associated Press writers Adam Goldman and Colleen Long contributed to this report.
 
The silver-haired pilot was wearing a white shirt and slacks...
I guess the reporter didn't want to be accused of leaving out any important details... :dry:
 
Geese in New York? I'd have thought the coyotes would have eaten them?

N.
 
NYC Doesn't strike me as a place where I've ever heard of coyotes. Though I know one may lurk even here among us hehe! If I was a geese I'd find it a very nice place to be as was written. I often hear them flying through the sky a lot in my area a lot too which has many safe places for them. They seem fairly common.
 
I guess the coyotes are all on the prarie. We get a lot of Canada Geese in the UK, I live close to a river, and they are fairly widespread. Surprised Heathrow dosen't have problems with them, the Thames is fairly close, and there are quite a few resevoirs near.

N.
 
There are Canadian geese infesting most of the US most of the year. It is illegal to hunt them, so they make themselves at home and foul everything they touch. A few geese is nice, but thousands of them deficating on every stretch of exposed grass is not cute. I'm not sure if these are what hit the plane, they may have been a different type of goose.
 
Actually, in his last audio message, Osama Bin Laden claimed, that the goose had been trained in an Al Quaida Camp in Pakistan. Only the hard suicide goose training made sure, that both engines failed.
 
It is now known that Capt. Sullenberger is also an experienced glider pilot in his free time. Defenately, his gliding experience helped him in this situation.
There are more examples of glider pilots making save landings, with total engine loss airliners.


The video on this site pays some attention on Sullenberger's gliding experience:
http://www.ktvu.com/news/18495779/detail.html?taf=fran


regards,
mcduck
 
If you want hard geese, then Barnacle Geese would be better?

N.
 
Even more explained on the role of his gliding experience:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/science_news/4299754.html

Although it possibly could be trained without being a glider, I do believe it actually helps. At least I would feel safe to fly with some of my instructors or friends who are also commercial airline pilots :)

regards,
mcduck
 
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