OHM USS Enterprise NCC-1701 Command Cruiser

[OrbitHangar]

Author: christophert

TGEP's Refit of my USS Enterprise as a command cruiser. The Abortoreum has been replaced by an experimental phased-array sensor pallet. All mods by TGEP, uploaded with his permission. See docs for other credits.

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[Hielor]

I thought the original (non-A) Enterprise had round nacelles?

 

[TonyZ2525]

You are thinking of the TOS enterprise..The original re-fit Enterprise (NCC-1701) form The Motion Picture which this model represents was almost identical to the Enterprise-A (NCC-1701-A) which was introduced at the end of Search for Spock to replace the re-fit Enterprise (NCC-1701) after it was destroyed during the Search for Spock.

 

[Hielor]

Okay, so, if it's almost identical, why do we need two separate addons?

 

[Star Voyager]

And are you guys planning to make the TOS version?

 

[the.punk]

Yeah. A TOS version would be cool.

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Orbiter crashes when I start the scenario. I installed spacecraft2 and tried it with spacecraft3.

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Solved it. The mesh name in the ini was wrong.

 

[ChristopherT]

Okay, so, if it's almost identical, why do we need two separate addons?

Because the NCC-1701 refit was destroyed over the Genesis planet.

Starfleet has an ongoing history of research into new systems. It makes sense that after the loss of the Enterprise-Refit the Enterprise-A would get similar treatment. As a point of fact, any of the refit Constitution Class ships can use the 'phased-array sensor pallet'.

TGEP has some TOS and ENT material on his workbench. Exactly which ships he's working on I don't know. I looked at one his ships yesterday, all I can say is that it falls inbetween ENT and TOS and it's very well done from a design and mesh point of view. :thumbup:

ChristopherT

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Yeah. A TOS version would be cool.
Solved it. The mesh name in the ini was wrong.

Which one was that? I can update the .zip file on Orbithangar.com

ChristopherT

 

[Andy44]

I once had a book called "Spaceflight Chronology" or something that was a detailed history of Federation (human) spaceflight from Sputnik to the time of the Motion Picture and had lots of great ideas for Star Trek addons. It was rendered non-canon by subsequent Star Trek movies and TV series, but it was fun nontheless. Unfortunately I think I lent it to a friend in high school and haven't seen it in ages.

In that book, spacecraft named Enterprise included, IIRC, the first shuttle orbiter, which was never completed fitting for spaceflight, a commercial passenger liner which was not a Starfleet vessel, and finally the heavy cruiser NCC-1701 seen in the original series, and later in the Motion Picture after undergoing a "refit" (looked more like a total tear-down and rebuild to me...).

The book featured a class of Starfleet ships called the Moscow class, which may have been the inspiration for the ship featured in the series Star Trek: Enterprise, as it looked sort of similar.

 

[ChristopherT]

I once had a book called "Spaceflight Chronology" or something that was a detailed history of Federation (human) spaceflight from Sputnik to the time of the Motion Picture and had lots of great ideas for Star Trek addons. It was rendered non-canon by subsequent Star Trek movies and TV series, but it was fun nontheless. Unfortunately I think I lent it to a friend in high school and haven't seen it in ages.

I've read the book, but never owned a copy. The file on Orbithangar has been updated with a new .ini file. The old one had the wrong mesh name. I don't think the series or the movies made it obsolete as the actions of Michael Okuda and company when he published the ST:TNG tech manual. I do own a copy of that and totally disagree with the author's comments and POV!

ChristopherT

 

[the.punk]

TGEP has some TOS and ENT material on his workbench. Exactly which ships he's working on I don't know. I looked at one his ships yesterday, all I can say is that it falls inbetween ENT and TOS and it's very well done from a design and mesh point of view. :thumbup:

I would realy like to see a TOS enterprise.:tiphat:

 

[ChristopherT]

I would realy like to see a TOS enterprise.:tiphat:

http://www.orbithangar.com/search_quick.php?text=ChristopherT&submit.x=9&submit.y=10

Look here, you should find at least one for Orbiter... :thumbup:

ChristopherT

 

[Star Voyager]

I found 5 original Constitution class starships, including the Enterprise :speakcool:! Thanks ChrisT !

 

[ChristopherT]

I found 5 original Constitution class starships, including the Enterprise :speakcool:! Thanks ChrisT !

View attachment 3704

Keep looking, because I know the whole fleet of should be up there. :lol:

I show NCC-1701P (pilot), NCC-1703, NCC-1709, NCC-1710, NCC-1711, NCC1712. Then there is...

USS_Constellation_-_NCC-1017.zip
USS_Republic_-_NCC-1371.zip
USS_Enterprise_-_NCC-1701.zip
USS_Farragut_-_NCC-1702.zip
USS_Yorktown_-_NCC-1704.zip
USS_Excalibur_-_NCC-1705.zip
USS_Exeter_-_NCC-1706.zip
USS_Hood_-_NCC-1707.zip
USS_Intrepid_-_NCC-1708.zip
USS_Republic_-_NCC-1371.zip

Kyle did the USS Constitution, NCC-1700 so I didn't duplicate that one. All of the TOS models are overscaled to fit with his ships. I believe TGEP is working on true scaling the meshes.

Constellation and Republic were refit from a previous class of starship, much the way the TOS
Enterprise was rebuilt for ST:TMP. The previous class had a spherical primary hull. The Constitution and the others were new build hulls and NCC-1700 was the class ship.

ChristopherT

 

[Star Voyager]

Thanks for the info. Here is a list with some more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_class_starship

 

[ChristopherT]

Thanks for the info. Here is a list with some more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_class_starship

That's certainly one version of it. The wiki generally holds with the material supported by Paramount. Right down to using the chart from the episode "Court Martial". That chart only had NCC numbers and the % Complete. No classes or ship type were given.

It seems funny to me there would be 10 broken Constitution Class Starships out of 12 at one starbase!

ChristopherT

 

[dougkeenan]

That's certainly one version of it. The wiki generally holds with the material supported by Paramount. Right down to using the chart from the episode "Court Martial". That chart only had NCC numbers and the % Complete. No classes or ship type were given.

It seems funny to me there would be 10 broken Constitution Class Starships out of 12 at one starbase!

ChristopherT

Only one of the twelve had Scotty on board!

 

[ChristopherT]

Only one of the twelve had Scotty on board!

That's very true!

ChristopherT

 

[Andy44]

So, putting my dork hat back on, it's my understanding that the "CC" in "NCC" is navy-speak for "command cruiser", or just "cruiser" maybe?

I used to play a wargame called Starfleet Battles, which was based on Star Trek and was allowed by Paramount to use pretty much everything but the key names like Kirk, Spock, Enterprise, etc. In that wargame, the classes of ships in Starfleet used the same designations as the US Navy: DD for destroyers, FF for frigates, CA for heavy cruisers, and BB for battleships such as the big 3-engined dreadnought depicted in the original Starfleet Manual, which was THE nerd handbook back in the 70s.

 

[Lucy]

I remember that game. It was also the basis for the Starfleet Command series of games, which were only slightly less fun.

As for the "CC" in "NCC" - certainly by the later series that prefix seemed to be on every commissioned ship in Starfleet, with prototypes bearing "NX".

Memory Alpha have this to say on the matter;

"It has never been canonically established what the letters "NCC" or "NX" stand for, but in the 23rd and 24th centuries, "NX" (not to be confused with NX class) seemed to be used to designate experimental or prototype starships while NCC designated normal "production" vessels.

"A potential Star Trek: Enterprise fifth season episode would have introduced the "NCC" designation and the teleplay referenced it as "Naval Construction Contract".

"The use of "NCC" as a prefix for Starfleet registry numbers, Matt Jefferies said that the registries for American civil aircraft are preceded by "NC," and Soviet craft used a prefix of "CCCC," and as such, he more-or-less combined the two. His philosophy was, "If we do anything in space, we (Americans and Russians) have to do it together."

"Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter 231 from Richmond, Virginia claims that the registry for the original USS Enterprise was inspired by the 1935 WACO Model YOC aircraft owned by Matt Jefferies – his airplane had the registry NC-17740."

 

[Cairan]

"Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter 231 from Richmond, Virginia claims that the registry for the original USS Enterprise was inspired by the 1935 WACO Model YOC aircraft owned by Matt Jefferies – his airplane had the registry NC-17740."

Actually no, it's much more mundane than that: 1701 was the civic address of the guy who designed and built the original Enterprise model back in the 60's... so he just used the numbers from his door and mailbox hehe I saw it on some TV special about TOS a while back...