What is the most crappy scifi ever?

[StarLost]

The usual conundrum when trying to find a "best" or "worst" ever, most of you don't have the length of experience to try to determine what "ever" means (usually you erroneously apply only the length of your own life).

Swing back young ones. Worst ever TV scifi: "The Starlost"

followed by the Star Wars prequels, or is that second trilogy?

 

[tblaxland]

"I would have paid another $7.50 to have that movie erased from my memory!"

Ouch, that just reminded me of another bad scifi movie - Total Recall.

Independence Day would get my vote for worst movie, Contact best movie, 2001 best soundtrack and one of the Star Trek movies best sound effects (hard to choose but maybe Generations).

 

[eveningsky339]

Meh, Contact was fairly mundane, IMO. At the very end, Foster was talking about how happy everyone was going to be now that she met aliens and I did not follow her train of thought in the slightest. :blink:

Worst sci-fi I've ever seen? Any "original movie" that finds itself on the Sci-Fi channel. Dinocroc (all three), Frankenfish, Blood Ape... all absolute crap. Whoever makes these movies should die in a fire.

(But those will never beat the one about the robot dog who couldn't die. I can't remember the actualy name of the movie though.)

 

[Coolhand]

Was this the one where Ripley's clone had all her original's memories? More than I can take, I'm afraid. Or was that 4?

**** no.. that was the 4th one.

that one was cack.

Total Recall is ace btw. Cheesy, but was it a dream, was it real? hmm...

Paul Verhoeven films always seem to be dismissed easily for one reason, or another, excessive gore, not close enough to the original book or whatever, his 3 scifi films that i can think of, Total Recall, Starship Troopers & Robocop are all either deeply satirical and / or have other more complex themes within them that are quite well used... the propoganda in starship troopers, and the concept of how we percieve reality in Total Recall - Total Recall is based on a phillip k dick novel, the same guy who also wrote Blade Runner, which also deals with some similar themes... His films have far more worth than most of the other 'bad' movies that have been mentioned so far, perhaps more than some of the 'good' ones.

 

[GregBurch]

**** no.. that was the 4th one.

that one was cack.

Total Recall is ace btw. Cheesy, but was it a dream, was it real? hmm...

Paul Verhoeven films always seem to be dismissed easily for one reason, or another, excessive gore, not close enough to the original book or whatever, his 3 scifi films that i can think of, Total Recall, Starship Troopers & Robocop are all either deeply satirical and / or have other more complex themes within them that are quite well used... the propoganda in starship troopers, and the concept of how we percieve reality in Total Recall - Total Recall is based on a phillip k dick novel, the same guy who also wrote Blade Runner, which also deals with some similar themes... His films have far more worth than most of the other 'bad' movies that have been mentioned so far, perhaps more than some of the 'good' ones.

Ahh -- OK -- Alien 3 wasn't that bad -- just not nearly as good as the first 2 (and also didn't use the script i wrote in my head for the third movie the night after I saw Aliens) ...

I agree about Verhoven. He's better than people give him credit for -- his first movie, Soldaat van Orange is still in my top 100 -- maybe top 50. But he's spotty.

And anything by PK Dick is worth thinking about.

 

[willy88]

Erm, Battlefield Earth? Thankfully I've never seen it, but it sounds horrible.

 

[Star explorer]

Best ever in any category: 2001; second place: Contact

dude contact sucked not even the part were the lady got layed was good.


i thought Armageddon wasen't that bad though it is inaccurate about space physics and such.

 

[eveningsky339]

dude contact sucked not even the part were the lady got layed was good.

I somehow doubt people watch sci-fi movies for the sexual content, but ok. :blink:

 

[Star explorer]

i dident watch it for the sexual conent well i dident want to watch it at all but they made us watch it in school
when we whur learning about astronemy

 

[Missioncmdr]

i dident watch it for the sexual conent well i dident want to watch it at all but they made us watch it in school
when we whur learning about astronemy

Well, they obviously did not teach you how to spell.

 

[tomek]

Do not feed the trolls.

If you mean crappy by the production and effects - Nothing will beat Ijon Tichy, a German TV production. Low budget, lots of humor and a great fun to watch, as the people involved obviously also had lots of fun.

Was that by Lem's short stories?

 

[Biscuit]

Yeah ... "Battlefield Earth" the movie hurt ... really bad. L. Ron was a loon, but the book was great. "The Starlost" was such a great concept, but horribly failed execution.

All time classic great sci-fi ... "The Day the Earth Stood Still", "Forbidden Planet", "Planet of the Apes" (the original), "Soylent Green", "Silent Running" ... ("2001" is a given, as is "Dr Who".)

All time stinkers (painful to watch) ... "First Spaceship on Venus", "In the Year 2889", "Battle for the Planet of the Apes", "Planet of the Apes" the remake. Or, speaking of remakes, "Lost in Space" the remake ... Argh ... what a load.

Sadly, all of these are sitting on my video shelf.

 

[JamesG]

When it comes to most Hollywood sci-fi you really do have to turn your brain off to enjoy (tolerate?) it.

IMHO one movie that should have been great, but yet still managed to suck was "Solaris". It was so slow and boring that I couldn't make it 30 minutes before turning it off...

My pick for all time worst movie would be (drumroll please): "Robot Jox".
I was an avid BattleTech player at the time, and so sat thru this train wreck of a movie... twice... just to see the scant couple of minutes of actual "robots" doing their thing.

 

[NukeET]

Doth mine eyes deceive me, or did someone here just describe "2001" as crap?

Yes, somebody called "2001" "crap". No accounting for taste.

Most disappointing screen adaptation of a good book: Starship Troopers, which is also number two on the absolute crap list.

I second that motion...it was the first work of Heinlein I ever read. Those "people" raped the original story.

Or, speaking of remakes, "Lost in Space" the remake ... Argh ... what a load.

The remake was far better than that piece of TV series...IMO which was the crappiest sci-fi ever.

 

[Andy44]

The usual conundrum when trying to find a "best" or "worst" ever, most of you don't have the length of experience to try to determine what "ever" means (usually you erroneously apply only the length of your own life).

Swing back young ones. Worst ever TV scifi: "The Starlost"

followed by the Star Wars prequels, or is that second trilogy?

StarLost! Haven't seen you in AGES! Nice to have you back, after the great M6-o-clysm and all.

My personal most-hated sci-fi has to be Armageddon. Most of the others I can let pass to some extent. Let me explain:

Star Wars is not really sci-fi; it's swords-and-wizards fantasy with a sci-fi wrapper. So the prequels, while they do admittedly suck horribly, don't make my list.

Star Trek, original and later alike, has many impossible theories and lousy stories, but it also has many great storylines and lovable characters, and although the physics are too hard to swallow, they are effectively slathered in liberal amounts of handwavium so that you can ignore it and pay attention to the characters. Firefly/Serenity also falls into this category, with a tad less handwavium and way more loveable characters and themes.

I am with Greg Burch about Starship Troopers. The makers of that film should be marched to stand before the tombstone of R. A. Heinlein, forced to apologize, and then executed by making them watch their crappy movie over and over until they expire.

But Armageddon is a special kind of suck.

Prior to the film's release, there was much hype and BS. Smithsonian Air & Space magazine had an article about it, claiming that it had NASA advisors on the set and that it promised to be realistic. This turned out to be BS. In every single space scene there were massively stupid errors too numerous and painful to recount. What killed me most about this is that it was totally un-necessary! A realistic mission to an approaching asteroid could be planned and done in real life, and there's no reason not to make the movie realistic. Realistic missions can be exciting, see Apollo 13. No handwavium required.

Worse, the story flow, the script, the music, the lousy effects, the cast (is it just me or does the mere presence of Ben Affleck mean the kiss of death for any film?), and the awful music (oops, already said that) add up to a monumentally hateful waste of good camera film. I refuse to ever pay to see another Michael Bay film. Bury his house in physics books and make him read his way back out to daylight, please.

 

[Linguofreak]

Star Trek TOS was fairly bad. Horrid special effects, and some plotlines that were downright innane. Some of these might have worked as comedy, but absolutely fell flat because the show tried pulling them with a straight face. I seem to recall there being one involving a planet that had based it's culture on a book about 1920's Chicago gansterism...

 

[Andy44]

Star Trek TOS was fairly bad. Horrid special effects, and some plotlines that were downright innane. Some of these might have worked as comedy, but absolutely fell flat because the show tried pulling them with a straight face. I seem to recall there being one involving a planet that had based it's culture on a book about 1920's Chicago gansterism...

Careful, them's fightin' words! Perhaps you're young. I used to argue alot with people who grew up thinking Captain Picard's Next Generation was better than TOS, and their usual asinine reason was that the effects were better. Primitive or low-budget effects don't take away from a solid story, and I certainly like TOS's characters alot more than whiners like Picard, Riker, and Troi.

 

[Linguofreak]

The usual conundrum when trying to find a "best" or "worst" ever, most of you don't have the length of experience to try to determine what "ever" means (usually you erroneously apply only the length of your own life).

Swing back young ones. Worst ever TV scifi: "The Starlost"

followed by the Star Wars prequels, or is that second trilogy?

I don't know about the prequels. Episode I was good, I thought it was on par with the original trilogy, Episode II was fairly good, but had problems, and Episode III was bad, but I wouldn't say it was anywhere near "the worst."

 

[willy88]

Star Trek TOS was fairly bad. Horrid special effects, and some plotlines that were downright innane. Some of these might have worked as comedy, but absolutely fell flat because the show tried pulling them with a straight face. I seem to recall there being one involving a planet that had based it's culture on a book about 1920's Chicago gansterism...

See that, that's bullet time!

 

[Kyle]

I don't know about the prequels. Episode I was good, I thought it was on par with the original trilogy, Episode II was fairly good, but had problems, and Episode III was bad, but I wouldn't say it was anywhere near "the worst."

Got it backwards.
Episode I Sucked ( 1.5 Star rating.)
Episode II was Ok (2.5 Star Rating.)
Episode III was Good. (3.5 Star Rating.)
For the old trilogy.
Episode VI Was great (4 star Rating)
Episode V was the best (4 Star Rating)
Episode VI Was great (3.5 Star Rating.)
again, I got those ratings off my TV Guide.