why do planets have only 1 axis of rotation?

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this though just popped into my head and im sure there is a simple explanation that i dont remember but why do planets have only one rotational axis?

i guess the best way to visualize it would be to RCS rotate left... that is how a planet rotates to my understanding. now rotate up. there is a dramatic change in orientation that seems utterly chaotic (in my imagination anyway).

to my understanding, planets begin to rotate as they are formed and only change their axis if they are impacted by something witch gives an "earthlike" offset axis. while that all makes sense i dont understand why earths rotational axis is so stable. why does the rotational axis itself not continue to rotate?

am i even making sense? am i just being totally ignorant of something very simple?
 
As I understand it, the large moon and the liquid nature of earth are responsible for this.
I am sure much better explanations will follow below.
 
It actually does rotate (kind of); it's axis rotates around a line perpendicular to its orbital plane every 26,000 years. It's called precession and can even be simulated in Orbiter.
 
to my understanding, planets begin to rotate as they are formed and only change their axis if they are impacted by something witch gives an "earthlike" offset axis. while that all makes sense i dont understand why earths rotational axis is so stable. why does the rotational axis itself not continue to rotate?
Because of conservation of angular momentum. And there is also precession, which is like another axis of rotation.
 
i guess the best way to visualize it would be to RCS rotate left... that is how a planet rotates to my understanding. now rotate up.

This would still leave you rotating on one axis - it's just that that axis would no longer be aligned with the vessels x,y, or z axis. To get rotation on two axis RCS rotate left (yaw), the RCS rotate on the roll axis.

IIRC, Neptune rotates on two axis, one being it's own "spin" axis, and the other being focused on the sun - the "spin" axis is roughly parallel to the ecliptic (rather than nearly perpendicular like the other planets) and the same "pole" always points toward the Sun.
 
IIRC, Neptune rotates on two axis, one being it's own "spin" axis, and the other being focused on the sun - the "spin" axis is roughly parallel to the ecliptic (rather than nearly perpendicular like the other planets) and the same "pole" always points toward the Sun.

How is that different from earth? Only slightly tilted.
 
this though just popped into my head and im sure there is a simple explanation that i dont remember but why do planets have only one rotational axis?
Any rotating object has a single rotational axis at any given moment, otherwise known as the angular velocity vector.

i guess the best way to visualize it would be to RCS rotate left... that is how a planet rotates to my understanding. now rotate up. there is a dramatic change in orientation that seems utterly chaotic (in my imagination anyway).
This is called torque free precession*, ie a changing in the direction and magnitude of the angular velocity vector. All the planets do this, but the effect is very much smaller. The effect is caused by the angular momentum vector remaining in a constant direction and magnitude (ie, it is conserved) but the object having principle moments of inertia that are both unequal and not aligned with the angular momentum vector.

to my understanding, planets begin to rotate as they are formed and only change their axis if they are impacted by something witch gives an "earthlike" offset axis. while that all makes sense i dont understand why earths rotational axis is so stable. why does the rotational axis itself not continue to rotate?
Perfectly spherical objects have no precession because their principle moments of inertia (PMIs) are all equal. The Earth is forced to be nearly spherical by its gravity so it has nearly equal PMIs and therefore very little precession. The rotation does cause a slight bulge at the equator (the planets are not perfectly rigid) which decreases the PMIs in the two of the principle axes slightly which has the effect of further reducing the precession. You can see that effect in this cool Java applet: http://faculty.ifmo.ru/butikov/Applets/Precession.html

Lower gravity objects that have not been forced into near-spherical shapes, such as asteroids, have much more interesting torque-free precession due to their unequal PMIs.

The equatorial bulge does introduce another effect though: torque induced precession. Tidal forces on the equatorial bulge rotate the angular momentum vector, thereby rotating the angular velocity vector. This is referred to as the precession of the equinoxes. There is a good description of how that works here: http://www.crystalinks.com/precession.html. Orbiter does simulate this effect in an approximate way - have a look at the precession values in the planet config files.

As I understand it, the rotation of the planets during their formation is due to the orbital angular momentum of the individual particles that form the planets, ie, before the planet was formed they were orbiting about a centre of mass where the planet ultimately formed. This is why the angular momentum vectors of most planets in our solar system point in roughly the same direction (the direction of the total angular momentum of the solar system) - they were formed out of the same spinning cloud of dust/debris.

am i even making sense? am i just being totally ignorant of something very simple?
Precession bends the mind. Very good question IMHO :thumbup:

Things are complicated further when a planet/moon is effected by tidal forces from multiple bodies, and also when the non-rigid nature of the body is taken into account (for example, the weather and ocean currents on Earth causes slight changes in the PMIs and therefore the direction of the angular velocity vector. You can see some of that effect in these graphs: http://www.iers.org/nn_11252/IERS/E.../Plots__BulA/generischeTabelle__Diagramm.html).

* A note on nomenclature: Astronomers normally refer to the torque-free precession as "nutation" since the angular change in the velocity vector is typically very small compared to the torque-induced precession. They normally refer to the torque induced precession as just "precession". Typically the nutation has a much smaller period

EDIT: It took me a while to type all that while you guys were madly replying away. Forgive me for being redundant, if I was.
 
IIRC, Neptune rotates on two axis, one being it's own "spin" axis, and the other being focused on the sun - the "spin" axis is roughly parallel to the ecliptic (rather than nearly perpendicular like the other planets) and the same "pole" always points toward the Sun.
Perhaps you are thinking or Uranus, which has an obliquity of 97.77°? It basically doesn't precess anyway because the tidal forces are so low. Being a gas giant, it is very symmetrical about its angular momentum vector so you don't really see any torque-free precession either.

Neptune has an obliquity of 28.32°. Looking back on my data, it seems I never did precession figures for Neptune :embarrassed:. I'll have to correct that at some stage.
 
Perhaps you are thinking or Uranus, which has an obliquity of 97.77°?

Probably. That's why I included the "IIRC disclaimer"! I'm not at home so I don't have any data to check my facts first.
 
FWIW, running some rough numbers Neptune has a precession period of approximately 688 years and with a magnitude of about 0.6°. Quite rapid really, maybe some interaction with Triton going on there :shrug:
 
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