Izack
Non sequitur
If you already have the buttons working, I don't think removing some of them would be a great idea. If the MFD isn't there when the scenario is loaded, it might be impossible to select it for lack of buttons...
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Moach
Crazy dude with a rocket
well, we're talking about a completely separate panel... it doesn't have the same buttons as an MFD...
but even if the scenario file unadvisedly forces it to something else, i can still undo that after the load-state callback :thumbup:
the good thing about DLL vessels is that we have full control over everything...
including MFDs :lol:
Grover
Saturn V Misfire
i think its more realistic to have a seperate panel for comms, in the case of the Orbiter addon, this should be easily available to the pilot (player)
if its a case of "press tab, look down and there it is", its fine, so forget my query.
on the topic, is the view changed with tab like the '100? and if so, will there be a cycle to go between PLT, ENG and docking/payload view seats? or will there be a seperate function (CTRL TAB) to get to the docking view?
thanks
if its a case of "press tab, look down and there it is", its fine, so forget my query.
on the topic, is the view changed with tab like the '100? and if so, will there be a cycle to go between PLT, ENG and docking/payload view seats? or will there be a seperate function (CTRL TAB) to get to the docking view?
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Moach
Crazy dude with a rocket
it is a case of "press TAB, look down, it's there" :thumbup:
and yes, i was indeed thinking along the lines of TAB jumps between right-left seat, CTRL+TAB pops back to the aft cabin... then once back there, TAB switches sides on the bay-facing console
Grover
Saturn V Misfire
Nice one, it will.be fine lie that because you normally set nav freqs well before times where you have your hands full. It just means you need to set the VOR and ILS before reentry, or risk doing it on pre-final approach when things calm down a little.
And just out of intrest, how do you plan to reenter? Will there be a simple AoA hold autopilot? Keeping with realism, nobody would re-enter with 100% manual control
Thanks
And just out of intrest, how do you plan to reenter? Will there be a simple AoA hold autopilot? Keeping with realism, nobody would re-enter with 100% manual control
Thanks
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An AoA/attitude hold autopilot coupled with AeroBrakeMFD is pretty much all one needs for perfect land-on-a-dime reentries...
That is, given that the ship has enough RCS and AF oomph to keep it's attitude while ripping through mach 15 air...
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That is, given that the ship has enough RCS and AF oomph to keep it's attitude while ripping through mach 15 air...
Cheers
Eli13
Fish Dreamer
Just a small question, but why is the pilot on the right side? I'm pretty sure that in most aircraft that the pilot in command *usually* sits on the left side. I'm not saying to change it, just wondering why.
River Crab
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Reason for that was said earlier, to keep some critical controls common to both the pilot and flight engineer; that's the way it's done on some military aircraft, for this same reason.
The "pilot on the left" thing is mostly out of tradition, anyway.
The "pilot on the left" thing is mostly out of tradition, anyway.
Eli13
Fish Dreamer
On military aircraft? I've been on quite a few and i have never seen that before. Which ones are you referring to? Oh and I dont know if this is in the rest of the thread, but will it carry cargo also?
River Crab
SpaceX Cheer Captain
It has a cargo bay...
See this post about the cockpit, and the next one:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=253859&postcount=160
See this post about the cockpit, and the next one:
http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=253859&postcount=160
Eli13
Fish Dreamer
Um i never saw it so don't act like i'm totally stupid. :lol: anyways that makes sense until you get a left handed pilot....
Hlynkacg
Aspiring rocket scientist
The Black Hawk and Huey Helicopters are both flown from the right seat. Likewise for the EA-6, C-2, and some varients of the C-130.
Eli13
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Ok, I know it works like that on helicopters of most sorts of helicopters both military and civilian. But i wouldn't know that about the EA-6 and C-2 as ive never been in them. The C-130's ive been in have been commanded from the left seat. Anyways, just a little off topic there.
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I think it's good thinking to put the pilot on the right... the flightstick, being on mounted on the sidewall, would feel awkward if it had to be operated with the left hand.
I've heard somewhere that this was a common complaint among Airbus pilots, when they introduced the FBW system on their airplanes. They naturally felt uncomfortable having to use a flight stick with the weak hand.
The pilot is on the left only because of convention, anyways... it's not breaking any laws
Cheers
I've heard somewhere that this was a common complaint among Airbus pilots, when they introduced the FBW system on their airplanes. They naturally felt uncomfortable having to use a flight stick with the weak hand.
The pilot is on the left only because of convention, anyways... it's not breaking any laws
Cheers
Why not?
On the space shuttle, the pilot is in the right seat and the commander is in the left.
The G42 isn't just for atmospheric flight.
theflyingfish
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To my meager knowledge, the F-15, F-16, F-22, and F-35 all have the pilot on the right side...
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Hlynkacg
Aspiring rocket scientist
I see what you did there :dry:
Eli13
Fish Dreamer
:rofl:
And to halcyon's response, it was only a small question due to a small misunderstanding (and perhaps to my small mind
:lol
and im quite aware its not only for atmospheric flight. Why else would it need STS like windows for viewing the ISS?
Grover
Saturn V Misfire
just a quick one:
have you offset the VC mesh and VC viewpoint? it looks like either
you were parked on the runway offset perfectly to have the pilot over the centerline
or you havent put an X axis offset on the VC
if youve made the pilot viewpoint as the center of the VC mesh, just add a positive offset on the mesh for everything, equal to the distance between the actual center of the VC, and the current position
just a little nitpicky, but it would help when it comes time to taxi into a hangar
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actually, its closer to mach 30
and the last G42 had a CoG shift, which was easily enough to flip the craft over duruing re-entry, and in reality, fry the beck end of the craft, Moach won't have much to do to fix the CoG shift
then its just a case of building an autopilot that can use both trim and CoG shift in Harmony to hold a steady AoA between 50* (initial re-entry interface) and 25-30* (switchover between Energy management and stable flight methods). perhaps somebody on the forum could offer guidance?
i just tried a manual re-entry on the old G42, and without CoG (theres a severe bug), it was hard to do it, but i managed a semi-realistic (survivable, but i doubt NASA would try it my way) re-entry and it wouldve been a successful landing as well, had i remembered the command for speedbrakes :S
with the autopilot, this will be able to compete with the XR2 for both coolness and easy flight, because anyone would be able to fly and appreciate it
good luck Moach, cant wait to see the VC finished!
have you offset the VC mesh and VC viewpoint? it looks like either
you were parked on the runway offset perfectly to have the pilot over the centerline
or you havent put an X axis offset on the VC
if youve made the pilot viewpoint as the center of the VC mesh, just add a positive offset on the mesh for everything, equal to the distance between the actual center of the VC, and the current position
just a little nitpicky, but it would help when it comes time to taxi into a hangar
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actually, its closer to mach 30
and the last G42 had a CoG shift, which was easily enough to flip the craft over duruing re-entry, and in reality, fry the beck end of the craft, Moach won't have much to do to fix the CoG shift
then its just a case of building an autopilot that can use both trim and CoG shift in Harmony to hold a steady AoA between 50* (initial re-entry interface) and 25-30* (switchover between Energy management and stable flight methods). perhaps somebody on the forum could offer guidance?
i just tried a manual re-entry on the old G42, and without CoG (theres a severe bug), it was hard to do it, but i managed a semi-realistic (survivable, but i doubt NASA would try it my way) re-entry and it wouldve been a successful landing as well, had i remembered the command for speedbrakes :S
with the autopilot, this will be able to compete with the XR2 for both coolness and easy flight, because anyone would be able to fly and appreciate it
good luck Moach, cant wait to see the VC finished!
Eli13
Fish Dreamer
I'm with him on that! We are all eagerly awaiting updates! Good luck Moach! But from what I've seen you don't need it! :thumbup:
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