An "Overunity" Electric Motor From Ireland? - Steorn's E-Orbo.

[antimatter]

What do all of you think about Steorn's claims that they have developed a new type of motor technology that is over 100% efficient?

Basically, Steorn claims that their new E-Orbo motor does not experience back EMF and puts out more energy than you put in.

Here is a video of "talk" about their technology. In the video they perform some experiments that seems to verify their claim the system does not experience back EMF.

Introduction to an Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction - Part 1 - Steorn

There is an ongoing demo of the technology that is taking place at the Waterways Centre in Dublin, Ireland.

What do you make of this technology? My understanding is that if you are getting torque from an electric motor you must ALWAYS have back EMF.

However, Steorn's scope traces seem to indicate their system does not.

I'm fascinated.

 

[Andy44]

Basically, Steorn claims that their new E-Orbo motor does not experience back EMF and puts out more energy than you put in.

That's a red flag right there. A clear violation of the laws of thermodynamics and therefore impossible.

 

[Bj]

That's a red flag right there.

Its Youtube. Just like the lego's ball that was also posted on youtube.

A machine that collects energy is the only kind of machine that can output more then input. ie solar panels, nuclear energy ext.

 

[JamesG]

Might as well have called it a perpetual motion machine.

 

[T.Neo]

"Overunity" is essentially a "Perpetual Motion".

Yes, it violates the laws of thermodynamics and it is nonsense.

It's better not to waste energy (pardon the pun) on this and instead work towards better means of collecting real energy (be it by chemical, nuclear or solar means).

 

[JamesG]

I haven't seen the video yet (no access at work) but, I donno... technically most of these things "function" due to gravity and magnetism. So you could say that you are harnessing these forces to generate mechanical work. A water wheel is an "overunity" device as long as the water keeps flowing (due to gravity).

 

[T.Neo]

Yes, but that is essentially an open system.

Perpetual motion and "overunity" machines supposedly work as a closed system.

AFAIK, magnetic motors are not possible.

 

[cinder1992]

It's a load of . the laws of thermodynamics can NOT be broken. I'm gonna see if I can get a look at this thing (being the resident Irish orbonaut here ).

but, ALMOST free energy is possible if you harness background radiation (like, TippFM or RTE1 for instance).

 

[Artlav]

They take money for access to details, they don't show it as a power source, they don't show anything meaningful in "presentation".
So far looks like a scam.

But, i'll try to build the thing shown in it never the less...

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Looks busted - the toroidal coil side on have no noticeable effect on the magnet.
The ring oscilates like that when there are just 4 magnets and 4 pieces of metal - the cores in their coils i guess, and nothing happens if the power is on.

 

[atuhalpa]

I'm not even going to comment........... :rofl:

 

[JamesG]

Yes, but that is essentially an open system.
Perpetual motion and "overunity" machines supposedly work as a closed system.

It is a closed system if you consider the Earth's entire hydrosphere part of the device. :lol:

 

[Sky Captain]

I remember Steorn made similar claim few years ago and nothing came out of that. They even announced an open demonstration of their device, but when they had to show their gadget it "broke down" :lol:

 

[RisingFury]

Basically, Steorn claims that their new E-Orbo motor does not experience back EMF and puts out more energy than you put in.

I claim that pigs fly!!!!!! That makes it true!!!!!

 

[cinder1992]

I claim that pigs fly!!!!!! That makes it true!!!!!

yes, Swine flu!

 

[Arrowstar]

Looks busted - the toroidal coil side on have no noticeable effect on the magnet.
The ring oscilates like that when there are just 4 magnets and 4 pieces of metal - the cores in their coils i guess, and nothing happens if the power is on.

So you've actually built the device they showed? You got no output for any input at all? Can you take pictures and post them?

I'm a little fuzzy as to why people keep claiming you can break the second law of thermodynamics. I'd make the pun about expending energy elsewhere, but it looks like it's already been done! :lol:

 

[T.Neo]

It is a closed system if you consider the Earth's entire hydrosphere part of the device. :lol:

Yes, but the energy to drive the hydrosphere still comes from the Sun.

 

[Andy44]

Quote: It is a closed system if you consider the Earth's entire hydrosphere part of the device. :lol:
It is a closed system if you consider the Earth's entire hydrosphere part of the device. :lol:
Yes, but the energy to drive the hydrosphere still comes from the Sun.

And even with the sun it's not a closed system, as heat is lost by radiation into deep space.

 

[antimatter]

That's a red flag right there. A clear violation of the laws of thermodynamics and therefore impossible.

Apparently, the laws of thermodynamics might be wrong.

Take a look at the following video. They are clearly producing torque without back EMF. They are also producing an inductance gain.

Steorn's Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction COP is greater than 1. Part 1 of 5

Also, in the video the CEO states that full calorimeter data will be posted by the end of the month.

 

[tblaxland]

Also, in the video the CEO states that full calorimeter data will be posted by the end of the month.

Steorn has a well documented persistent failure to provide complete, transparent and repeatable data to support their claims. The only doubt in my mind is whether Steorn are perpetuating a genuine hoax or whether they are genuinely deluded.

 

[Artlav]

The only doubt in my mind is whether Steorn are perpetuating a genuine hoax or whether they are genuinely deluded.

I'd say hoax - first, they ask for money for detailed information, second - i tried reproducing that device in the video, and it don't even seem to be able to spin, reverse the polarity or not.