Problem Dragonfly scenarios crash on vanilla install of orbiter

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Hey,

New here.. Just installed fresh new orbiter. Everything works just fine except dragonfly - it crashes to desktop the moment I launch it. Is it a known bug?

Thanks
 
Please post contents of orbiter.log after the crash.
 
Noone has anything to add about this? I mean, I am quite confident about my pc, I have many other games, none causing any trouble whatsoever. It's a recently new pc with up to date drivers, etc. The installation is stock, everything in orbiter works except for dragonfly ?
 
I am able to reproduce this. Stock Orbiter 2010 install, inline graphics client, with only OrbiterSound added.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Open Orbiter 2010 via Orbiter.exe
2. From the launchpad, double-click the Dragonfly folder.
3. Double-click the 'Dragonfly' scenario under the Dragonfly folder to launch Orbiter.

Scenario file:
Code: 
BEGIN_DESC
The Dragonfly, a versatile orbital payload pusher. To familiarise yourself with Radu Poenaru's panels and systems simulation, see the Dragonfly Operations Handbook.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 51982.0416206481
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship TUG-01
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET TUG-01
  MODE Extern
  POS 6.66 -126.60 -18.42
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 60.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Docking
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Docking
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE COM/NAV
END_MFD

BEGIN_PANEL
END_PANEL

BEGIN_SHIPS
Module1A:Module1
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 6614294.70 -451194.34 -1154208.30
  RVEL -133.418 -7401.920 2114.666
  AROT 34.73 -8.91 49.39
  VROT 0.29 -0.00 -0.01
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Module1B:Module1
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 6614298.41 -451180.83 -1154188.81
  RVEL -133.418 -7401.920 2114.666
  AROT 34.73 -8.91 49.39
  VROT 0.29 -0.00 -0.01
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
TUG-01:Dragonfly
  INTERNAL: v0.9.35
    HYDRAULICS: 
      TANK  1 0.0000 129991 170.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 129991 170.00
      TANK  0 0.0000 130000 170.00
      MANIFOLD  1 1 1 1 1 0
      TANK  1 0.0000 69997 70.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 69997 70.00
      TANK  0 0.0000 70000 70.00
      MANIFOLD  1 1 1 1 1 0
      TANK  1 0.0000 103 294.52
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      TANK  1 0.0000 20000 288.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 20000 288.00
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  1 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      MANIFOLD  0 1 0 1 0 0
      TANK  1 0.0000 4693 294.82
      TANK  1 0.0000 2208 295.44
      MANIFOLD  1 1 1 1 1 1
      TANK  1 0.0000 9102 295.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 27000 295.00
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      TANK  1 0.0000 9100 295.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 27000 295.00
      TANK  1 0.0000 4800 295.00
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
      VALVE  0 0.0000
    ELECTRICAL: 
      FCELL  0 0.0019 
      FCELL  2 0.0000 
      BATTERY  0 5184000.0000 1
      DC  121.5000 
      DC  0.0000 
      AC  30.0000 
      DC  0.0000 
      DC  14.0000 
      SOCKET  -1
      SOCKET  -1
      SOCKET  -1
      SOCKET  -1
      SOCKET  -1
      SOCKET  -1
      HT  0 
      HT  0 
      HT  0 
      HT  0 
      HT  0 
      HT  0 
      FAN  1 
      FAN  1 
    PANEL     : 
      SW  -1 1 1 99 4674625 
    SW END  
    ROT END  
      SW  -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 
      SW  1 1 1 1 1 
      SW  1 0 1 1 1 
      SW  1 1 0 0 0 
      SW  0 0 -1 -1 1 
      SW  1 0 0 -1 -1 
      SW  0 0 0 0 0 
      SW  0 1 1 1 1 
      SW  -1 1 1 -1 -1 
      SW  -1 0 -1 0 1 
      SW  1 1 1 -1 1 
      SW  1 99 1 -1 1 
    SW END  
      ROT  0 0 0 99 1 
    ROT END  
    SW END  
    ROT END  
      SW  0 0 0 1 0 
      SW  1 0 0 1 1 
      SW  1 1 1 1 0 
      SW  0 1 -1 1 0 
      SW  1 0 99 1 0 
    SW END  
    ROT END  
      SW  -1 0 0 -1 0 
      SW  0 0 99 -1 0 
    SW END  
    ROT END  
   END INTERNAL 
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 6614291.68 -451206.40 -1154226.26
  RVEL -133.418 -7401.920 2114.666
  AROT 34.73 -8.91 49.39
  VROT 0.29 -0.00 -0.01
  FUEL 1.000
END
END_SHIPS

Orbiter.log:
Code: 
**** Orbiter.log
Build Aug 30 2010 [v.100830]
Timer precision: 3.53894e-007 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Devices enumerated: 8
Devices accepted: 6
==> RGB Emulation
==> Direct3D HAL
==> Direct3D T&L HAL
==> Direct3D HAL (Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000)
==> Direct3D HAL (NVIDIA NVS 5400M   )
==> Direct3D T&L HAL (NVIDIA NVS 5400M   )
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 121120, API 100830]
Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 100830, API 100830]

**** Creating simulation session
DirectDraw interface OK
Direct3D interface OK
Graphics: Viewport: Window 1018 x 548 x 32
Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
Loading 15382 records from star database
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 100830, API 100830]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 100217, API 100215]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 100830, API 100830]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
Finished initialising status
Finished initialising camera

Windows Event Viewer entry for the crash:
Code: 
Faulting application name: orbiter.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x4c7b0d0d
Faulting module name: Dragonfly.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x45f2435d
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000051d1
Faulting process id: 0x144c
Faulting application start time: 0x01d03a4775be09ef
Faulting application path: C:\Downloads\Orbiter2010(Dev)\orbiter.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Downloads\Orbiter2010(Dev)\Modules\Dragonfly.dll
Report Id: b6e737e8-a63a-11e4-aa72-7ce9d3ea0f53


---------- Post added at 11:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:44 AM ----------

EDIT - Crashes in D3D9Client as well

D3D9Client Log:
Code: 
D3D9Client Log




(0: 0.00s 87029165146us)(0x9C4) ================ clbkInitialise ===============
(1: 0.00s 87029165206us)(0x9C4) Orbiter Version = 100830
(2: 0.02s 87029187704us)(0x9C4) Index:0 640 x 480 60Hz (22)
(3: 0.02s 87029187921us)(0x9C4) Index:1 640 x 480 72Hz (22)
(4: 0.02s 87029188370us)(0x9C4) Index:2 640 x 480 75Hz (22)
(5: 0.03s 87029188878us)(0x9C4) Index:3 768 x 480 56Hz (22)
(6: 0.03s 87029189250us)(0x9C4) Index:4 768 x 480 60Hz (22)
(7: 0.03s 87029189613us)(0x9C4) Index:5 768 x 480 72Hz (22)
(8: 0.03s 87029189969us)(0x9C4) Index:6 768 x 480 75Hz (22)
(9: 0.03s 87029190334us)(0x9C4) Index:7 800 x 600 56Hz (22)
(10: 0.03s 87029190730us)(0x9C4) Index:8 800 x 600 60Hz (22)
(11: 0.03s 87029191089us)(0x9C4) Index:9 800 x 600 72Hz (22)
(12: 0.03s 87029191453us)(0x9C4) Index:10 800 x 600 75Hz (22)
(13: 0.03s 87029191840us)(0x9C4) Index:11 848 x 480 60Hz (22)
(14: 0.03s 87029192195us)(0x9C4) Index:12 848 x 480 70Hz (22)
(15: 0.03s 87029192555us)(0x9C4) Index:13 848 x 480 75Hz (22)
(16: 0.03s 87029192900us)(0x9C4) Index:14 960 x 600 60Hz (22)
(17: 0.03s 87029193261us)(0x9C4) Index:15 960 x 600 70Hz (22)
(18: 0.03s 87029193623us)(0x9C4) Index:16 960 x 600 75Hz (22)
(19: 0.03s 87029193998us)(0x9C4) Index:17 1024 x 600 60Hz (22)
(20: 0.03s 87029194350us)(0x9C4) Index:18 1024 x 600 70Hz (22)
(21: 0.03s 87029194709us)(0x9C4) Index:19 1024 x 600 75Hz (22)
(22: 0.03s 87029195089us)(0x9C4) Index:20 1024 x 768 60Hz (22)
(23: 0.03s 87029195434us)(0x9C4) Index:21 1024 x 768 70Hz (22)
(24: 0.03s 87029195783us)(0x9C4) Index:22 1024 x 768 75Hz (22)
(25: 0.03s 87029196147us)(0x9C4) Index:23 1280 x 720 60Hz (22)
(26: 0.03s 87029196514us)(0x9C4) Index:24 1280 x 768 60Hz (22)
(27: 0.03s 87029196878us)(0x9C4) Index:25 1280 x 800 60Hz (22)
(28: 0.03s 87029197212us)(0x9C4) Index:26 1280 x 1024 60Hz (22)
(29: 0.03s 87029197580us)(0x9C4) Index:27 1280 x 1024 75Hz (22)
(30: 0.03s 87029197949us)(0x9C4) Index:28 1360 x 768 60Hz (22)
(31: 0.03s 87029198421us)(0x9C4) Index:29 1366 x 768 60Hz (22)
(32: 0.04s 87029198795us)(0x9C4) Index:30 1440 x 900 60Hz (22)
(33: 0.04s 87029199089us)(0x9C4) Index:31 1600 x 1200 60Hz (22)
(34: 0.04s 87029199201us)(0x9C4) Index:32 1680 x 1050 59Hz (22)
(35: 0.04s 87029199265us)(0x9C4) Index:33 1680 x 1050 60Hz (22)
(36: 0.04s 87029199324us)(0x9C4) Index:34 1920 x 1080 60Hz (22)
(37: 0.04s 87029199383us)(0x9C4) Index:35 1600 x 900 60Hz (22)
(38: 0.04s 87029199441us)(0x9C4) Index:36 1400 x 1050 60Hz (22)
(39: 0.04s 87029199499us)(0x9C4) Index:37 1280 x 960 60Hz (22)
(40: 6.78s 87035938678us)(0x9C4) Node[1] = Dragonfly (0xC29A90)
(41: 6.78s 87035938708us)(0x9C4) Node[0] = Dragonfly (0xC29AD8)
(42: 6.78s 87035938716us)(0x9C4) Scenario = .\Scenarios\Dragonfly\Dragonfly.scn
(43: 6.78s 87035940869us)(0x9C4) ================ clbkCreateRenderWindow ===============
(44: 6.80s 87035958984us)(0x9C4) [VideoConfiguration] Adapter=0, ModeIndex=29
(45: 6.80s 87035959399us)(0x9C4) Adapter = NVIDIA NVS 5400M 
(46: 6.80s 87035959435us)(0x9C4) dwFSMode = 1
(47: 6.80s 87035963979us)(0x9C4) MaxTextureBlendStages..: 8
(48: 6.80s 87035964019us)(0x9C4) MaxTextureWidth........: 16384
(49: 6.80s 87035964031us)(0x9C4) MaxTextureHeight.......: 16384
(50: 6.80s 87035964046us)(0x9C4) MaxPrimitiveCount......: 16777215
(51: 6.80s 87035964056us)(0x9C4) MaxVertexIndex.........: 16777215
(52: 6.80s 87035964067us)(0x9C4) MaxAnisotropy..........: 16
(53: 6.80s 87035964077us)(0x9C4) MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
(54: 6.80s 87035964087us)(0x9C4) MaxStreams.............: 16
(55: 6.80s 87035964098us)(0x9C4) MaxStreamStride........: 255
(56: 6.80s 87035964107us)(0x9C4) MaxVertexBlendMatrices.: 4
(57: 6.80s 87035964117us)(0x9C4) MaxVShaderInstrExecuted: 65535
(58: 6.80s 87035964131us)(0x9C4) MaxPointSize...........: 8192.000000
(59: 6.80s 87035964143us)(0x9C4) VertexShaderVersion....: 0x300
(60: 6.80s 87035964154us)(0x9C4) PixelShaderVersion.....: 0x300
(61: 6.80s 87035964165us)(0x9C4) NumSimultaneousRTs.....: 4
(62: 6.80s 87035964175us)(0x9C4) D3DPTEXTURECAPS_POW2...: 0
(63: 6.80s 87035964185us)(0x9C4) NONPOW2CONDITIONAL.....: 0
(64: 6.80s 87035964195us)(0x9C4) VertexDeclCaps.........: 0x30F
(65: 6.80s 87035964205us)(0x9C4) DevCaps................: 0x1BBEF0
(66: 6.80s 87035964215us)(0x9C4) DevCaps2...............: 0x51
(67: 6.80s 87035964225us)(0x9C4) XNA Math Support.......: Yes
(68: 6.80s 87035964862us)(0x9C4) D3DFMT_D32F_LOCKABLE
(69: 6.80s 87035964891us)(0x9C4) D3DFMT_D24S8
(70: 6.80s 87035964900us)(0x9C4) D3DFMT_D24X8
(71: 6.80s 87035964907us)(0x9C4) Window Size = [1920, 1080]
(72: 6.83s 87035994420us)(0x9C4) Available Texture Memory = 4033 MB
(73: 6.84s 87036000885us)(0x9C4) ----- Initialize D3D9ClientSurface Tech -----
(74: 6.91s 87036070625us)(0x9C4) Render Target = 0x43A7B20
(75: 7.01s 87036174646us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Courier New), Size=20, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(76: 7.04s 87036198844us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 256 kb
(77: 7.04s 87036199347us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(78: 7.14s 87036304772us)(0x9C4) Starting to initialize basic a rendering technique...
(79: 7.14s 87036304807us)(0x9C4) [Compiling Effects for Shader Model 3.0]
(80: 8.45s 87037614727us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Arial), Size=24, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(81: 8.47s 87037637030us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 512 kb
(82: 8.47s 87037637578us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(83: 8.47s 87037637614us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Arial), Size=15, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(84: 8.50s 87037658908us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 256 kb
(85: 8.50s 87037659158us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(86: 8.50s 87037659198us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Fixed), Size=18, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(87: 8.52s 87037681720us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 256 kb
(88: 8.52s 87037681888us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(89: 8.52s 87037681915us)(0x9C4) ================ Scene Created ===============
(90: 9.64s 87038804833us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Courier New), Size=-21, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(91: 9.67s 87038833125us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 512 kb
(92: 9.67s 87038833422us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(93: 9.67s 87038833447us)(0x9C4) [NEW FONT] ( Arial), Size=20, Weight=400 Pitch&Family=31
(94: 9.69s 87038851942us)(0x9C4) Font Video Memory Usage = 256 kb
(95: 9.69s 87038852095us)(0x9C4) Font and Charter set creation succesfull
(96: 9.83s 87038993941us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3884D58 (VAB_TL1.dds) added in repository
(97: 9.84s 87039004826us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3884E80 (VAB_FR01.dds) added in repository
(98: 9.86s 87039021439us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3884FA8 (VAB_TL2.dds) added in repository
(99: 9.87s 87039038447us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x388C898 (VAB_FR02.dds) added in repository
(100: 9.89s 87039057937us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x388C9C0 (VAB_BK01.dds) added in repository
(101: 9.91s 87039071406us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x388CAE8 (LCC_WNDS.dds) added in repository
(102: 9.92s 87039088053us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x388CC10 (LCC_DRS.dds) added in repository
(103: 10.16s 87039322835us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x388CD38 (bulk2.dds) added in repository
(104: 10.20s 87039365080us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3892298 (Dragonfly\dfly3x.dds) added in repository
(105: 10.21s 87039371491us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x38923C0 (Dragonfly\dfly1x.dds) added in repository
(106: 10.22s 87039388152us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x38924E8 (Dragonfly\dfly4x.dds) added in repository
(107: 10.24s 87039404802us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3892610 (Dragonfly\dfly7x.dds) added in repository
(108: 10.26s 87039421432us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3892738 (Dragonfly\dfly6x.dds) added in repository
(109: 10.27s 87039438152us)(0x9C4) Texture 0x3892860 (Dragonfly\dfly5x.dds) added in repository
(110: 10.27s 87039438273us)(0x9C4) Storing a mesh 0x2644A30 (Dragonfly)
 
It's not the first time that i read some things like that about the Dragonfly in Orbiter 2010P1 but with a fresh install and with or without orbiter sound activated and not any other module, the dragonfly scenario works here in inline client or d3d9 full screen or windowed.
 
fort said:
It's not the first time that i read some things like that about the Dragonfly in Orbiter 2010P1 but with a fresh install and with or without orbiter sound activated and not any other module, the dragonfly scenario works here in inline client or d3d9 full screen or windowed.
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Indeed. And it seems I'd tried to help someone else back in 2010 with this same issue, allegedly related to OrbiterSound 3.5, but back then was unable to reproduce.

http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=189080&postcount=1

I just tried the workaround the OP in that thread had found, running Orbiter.exe in Compatibility Mode for XP Service Pack 3, and was able to successfully run the scenario. Reversing the setting for Compatibility Mode produces the error.
 
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Most generally, i think, if i remember well that it's the radar that don't work in 2010P1. Not sure. Radu, where are you ? :salute:
 
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It's something to do with the hud.dds. That's where it crashes in the load screen. I saw this once before on other stock vessels but can't for the life of me remember what the fix was.
 
n122vu said:
I saw this once before...
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Me too.

And:

if i make a search on the forum with "hud.dds" or simply "hud", i do not find anything. :hmm:
If i try in ggle with "Orbiter hud dds" ( and i know that it's not the first time that i see that ) i have at least one answer coming from the...forum :tiphat: !

http://www.orbiter-forum.com/project.php?issueid=406

And maybe ( but for the second link in russian ).
http://orbiter.dansteph.com/forum/index.php?topic=5550.0
http://vk.com/topic-428100_29334698
 
I am unable to reproduce this bug.

However IIRC Dragonfly is no longer fully operational is it?

On my install, I am unable to use all the cockpit buttons/instruments.

It is possible that I have not properly turned them on, however.

Even still, the behavior is strange. clicking on the COG status screen makes it permanently disappear and inoperable. I am also unable to power on the lower right instrument panel or use the attitude ball.
 
fort said:
Me too.

And:

if i make a search on the forum with "hud.dds" or simply "hud", i do not find anything. :hmm:
If i try in ggle with "Orbiter hud dds" ( and i know that it's not the first time that i see that ) i have at least one answer coming from the...forum :tiphat: !

http://www.orbiter-forum.com/project.php?issueid=406
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Ah, you may have found something there. I was testing over my lunch break at work, where I have a multiple-monitor setup. I'll have to try unchecking 'Always enumerate devices' the next time I'm in the office and see if that fixes it.

par2005 - Are you running in a multiple-monitor setup?
 
Disabling 'Always enumerate devices' and specifically selecting 'Direct 3D T&L HAL' did not have any effect on my work laptop. So far the only successful workaround that has corrected it for me has been to run Orbiter in Compatibility mode for XP Service Pack 3.
 
I have a similar issue. I can load the Dragonfly on a fresh install and everything works, even the left cockpit view as described below.

Upon reloading Orbiter and the Dragonfly scenario, it will load seemingly properly. From the cockpit view, I can view all of the cockpit views except the left cockpit. If I Ctrl-Left to it, the program crashes to desktop. As stated, this does not happen during the first run of Orbiter.

Experimenting with this, it's a bit more subtle. Dragonfly works when orbiter has been launched from the installer, but not afterwards. So, it's not necessarily the FIRST run of Orbiter where it works, but the first run only if it was launched from the installer.
 
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