Discussion Experience level challenge

[Rtyh-12]

Hmm...

I must admit I've never thought about this the way Tommy said. What he said is really true (IMO) but (as he said it, too) the guidelines should be general. (IMO-again). I was thinking that I can make a challenge which would look something like this:a 2-part 'exam' in Orbiter. The first part would be to test general skills, and the second to test your vessel-specific skills (which you would choose, depending on what you like flying - or you could choose another, more difficult general skills test). Each part could be made of a questionnaire and some real flying, and in the end you get a number of points. Then you get an experience level, depending on your number of points. What do you think?

P.S.:I don't think players are 'bad' just because they use unlimited fuel, as long as they really know what they're doing.

 

[Izack]

P.S.:I don't think players are 'bad' just because they use unlimited fuel, as long as they really know what they're doing.

If they really know what they are doing, why are they using unlimited fuel?

 

[garyw]

Tommy raises some very good points there and as Tex, Xyon, etc have pointed out, it's all subjective.

I've listed myself as an expert because I CAN go to all the planets in the Solar system (but I haven't) and I can fly pretty much anything (but I haven't tried them all).

Also, I can fix Orbiter problems, e.g. when Orbiter gets a little upset and decides to CTD when launching a scenario I have the skills to dig into it to work out what's broken.

Sometimes being an expert in something isn't just about what you can do in the application but how you can fix some of the odd things that it might do.

 

[Eccentrus]

what about me? I can fly to mars, land on olympus, refuel, launch back to the moon, go sightseeing, return to the earth, land on KSC, but I can't even dock on ISS smoothly (well, I did a lot of games which involves flying and landing)

 

[Rtyh-12]

If they really know what they are doing, why are they using unlimited fuel?

No idea. It could be...

Also, I can fix Orbiter problems, e.g. when Orbiter gets a little upset and decides to CTD when launching a scenario I have the skills to dig into it to work out what's broken.

You should visit me one day...
Orbiter crashes when I exit a scenario, when I press Ctrl-F1 and only the knows all the others...

what about me? I can fly to mars, land on olympus, refuel, launch back to the moon, go sightseeing, return to the earth, land on KSC, but I can't even dock on ISS smoothly (well, I did a lot of games which involves flying and landing)

Then you're good at interplanetary flight. Which is exactly what I can't really do...

 

[Grover]

well, that ranks me as advanced, which i thin is a little wrong, ive only been playing around for a couple of weeks.

maybe another factor could be efficiency, so, for my intermediate, getting to the moon (a base, not just anywhere) on a single tank of fuel is good (i managed it with just a few kilos of fuel left, used a SCRAM ascent and transx for an efficient lunar insertion)

and furthermore, a guide of how well you can use MFDs, so if cou can use transx to get you ro a planet with all aspects specified (you can capture into your desired orbit altitude with desired inclination (IE same inc as your target) and perform the capture with just retrograde burns.

other than that, its just a measure of your confidence to take a craft into the perils of the void, would you take a trip to the moon on a whim? would you consider a launch to the ISS as a day trip or an expedition?

as people have said, it isnt formal, and there certainly isnt any grading criteria. after all, this boils down to a game, at the end of the day, if you enjoy playing, you win!

---------- Post added at 06:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:13 PM ----------

sorry, i was reffering to this post, forgot to add the quote

Here's a little guideline you may choose to use or not. Its all subjective as Xyon pointed out and in the end it's totally up to you what to pick.
Beginner - You're still learning what the Probe is. You can fly the Delta Glider around in the atmosphere and get it into Earth orbit.
Intermediate - You've been playing Orbiter long enough you can get any vessel into orbit proficiently, you can align your plane, and you can rendevous with space stations in LEO.
Advanced - You can perform reentries with vessels like the DGIV, XR5, XR2. You can fly to the Moon, land on it, and fly back to Earth (excluding NASSP).
Expert - You can fly to any planet or moon in the solar system. You can fly NASSP. You've mastered every aspect of space flight.

 

[Tex]

I'm pretty sure this topic has been well discussed by now. As several have pointed out numerous times in this thread, one's experience level is totally subjective. It's simply a profile field on the forum in which you may choose to use or not. Have fun playing Orbiter is the most important thing the Probe says, and don't put too much thought in one's experience level. If we wanted to get really technical, there are too many levels to even list. :thumbup:

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