News Roscosmos doesn't ban foreign travel

[Veterok]

http://www.businessinsider.com/if-y...ace-agency-you-cant-leave-the-country-2011-12

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/112103/russia-space-agency-bans-foreign-travel

http://www.izvestia.ru/news/509705 (Russian Source)

Anyone here affected by this?

I'm not too familiar with the Russian legal system, but I'm surprised a rule this restrictive of citizen's rights doesn't have to go through parliament.

According to new reports, this was a recommendation, not a rule.
http://www.vz.ru/news/2011/12/21/548799.html

 

[Cras]

That's rough. Seems to apply to Roscosmos workers and those who work for contractors.

 

[Artlav]

Whoa.
Of course, there is no better way to combat brain drain than to restrict and imprison everyone concerned.
I thought we learned that back in USSR.

However, russian version says that it's aimed more at the upper management, who like to go on expensive vacations regardless of the work at hands.
Another backfired attempt to combat corruption?

 

[Cras]

Misguided is how I would describe it if it is indeed aimed at corruption and not the proverbial "Brain Drain".

Either way, not a good thing to read about the Russian space program.

 

[SiberianTiger]

However, russian version says that it's aimed more at the upper management, who like to go on expensive vacations regardless of the work at hands.
Another backfired attempt to combat corruption?

The change means that the vacation travel restriction now progarates to subscribers to primary and secondary clearance badge, but subscribers to the tertiary clearance are still free to go. At NK forum it was explained that badge 2 and upper personnel are largely everybody who do actual work at Baikonur and Plesetsk. Badge 3 is required even for the profession-oriented students.

Still, most of employees of the rocket industry lost nothing, because they were too poor to afford any foreign trip. Especially those resident to Urals and Siberia.

 

[SiberianTiger]

I'm not too familiar with the Russian legal system, but I'm surprised a rule this restrictive of citizen's rights doesn't have to go through parliament.

The restriction has always been in place, it has just been overlooked before. And what does it have to do with human rights, anyway? The price of being a nevyezdnoy (non-traveler) has always been paid by those who desired to work for space, intelligence or defense. The subscription to this is voluntary.

 

[Veterok]

The restriction has always been in place, it has just been overlooked before. And what does it have to do with human rights, anyway? The price of being a nevyezdnoy (non-traveler) has always been paid by those who desired to work for space, intelligence or defense. The subscription to this is voluntary.

I didn't say human rights, but freedom of movement could be considered one. It sounds like the price hasn't always been paid, if the law wasn't enforced before.

 

[SiberianTiger]

Popovkin's comment on the news messages that appeared in media (makes it a bit clearer):

http://www.vz.ru/news/2011/12/21/548799.html

Head of Russian Federal Space Agency Vladimir Popovkin denied published messages of the banning on traveling abroad for the staff of the Russian space industry.

According to ITAR-TASS, when speaking at a press conference at Baikonur, he explained that: "it was a letter of recommendation, which establishes the procedure for going abroad for those industry's employees who have the highest form of access to classified information - the so-called form of number one".

"These recommendations do not apply to any bank employees who interact with Roscosmos", Popovkin said. He noted that for this category of the industry's employees "departure is not prohibited, and purpose of the document is to provide the procedures for arrangement of travel". Relative to the respective publications in the media, he noted that "it's just another sensation, which has no real reason for making noise about".

 

[PhantomCruiser]

Surely the media in Russia don't take a benign subject and try to turn it into something it's not? I thought that was the mandate of CNN and FOX news... :dry: