What will your genetic relatives be doing in the year 1,362,010?

[HAL9001]

they'll reanimate me !
:lol::rofl::lol:

 

[Izack]

In short, this conjunction has absolutely no bearing on serious discussion of interstellar spaceflight.

This thread has nothing to do with serious discussion about interstellar spaceflight.

I don't mean we should start planning it now, only that interstellar flight will be at its easiest 1.3M years from now.

 

[T.Neo]

I don't mean we should start planning it now, only that interstellar flight will be at its easiest 1.3M years from now.

My whole point is that it isn't worth waiting 1.3 million years for that event.

This thread has nothing to do with serious discussion about interstellar spaceflight.

Good point.

 

[Urwumpe]

My genetic relatives will be either history or the blood-line will be so watered out, that my genetic relatives have to be considered a whole species.

 

[APDAF]

Mine will just be running away from it.
:leaving:

 

[Izack]

My whole point is that it isn't worth waiting 1.3 million years for that event.

I'm sure there are plenty of other things to do in the meantime. :lol:

 

[Turbinator]

It’s believed that modern humans originated about 200,000 years ago in the Middle Paleolithic period in southern Africa. One of the oldest sites of human settlement is located at Middle Awash in Ethiopia, where humans lived 160,000 years ago. By 70,000 years ago, humans migrated out of Africa and began colonizing the entire planet. They spread to Eurasia and Oceania 40,000 years ago, and reached the Americas by 14,500 years ago.

An estimated 1 to 4 percent of the DNA in Europeans and Asians (i.e. French, Chinese and Papua probands) is non-modern, and shared with ancient Neanderthal DNA rather than with Sub-Saharan Africans (i.e. Yoruba and San probands). Genetic research now confirms that non-Africans are part Neanderthal, due to interbreeding between Neanderthals and the ancestors of non-Africans in the Middle East. From this point on in the human migration, all Homo sapiens have Neanderthal DNA. The actual percentage varies based on genetic drift and the geographical region of ones relatives.

So much has happened in such a small period of time, that it makes the 1.3 milion years seem like an eternity.

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[Turbinator]

The planet you are thinking of is Gliese 581 d, orbiting the star Gliese 581, 20 light years away located at 15h19m27s, -07°43′19″. It has a mass 5.6 times that of Earth, the planet is classified as a super-Earth. It is located inside the Gelise 581 habitable zone.

In October 2008, members of the networking website Bebo beamed "A Message From Earth", a high-power transmission at Gliese 581, using the RT-70 radio telescope belonging to the National Space Agency of Ukraine. This transmission is due to arrive in the Gliese 581 system's vicinity by the year 2029; the earliest possible arrival for a response, should there be one, would be in 2049.

As part of the 2009 National Science Week celebrations in Australia, Cosmos Magazine launched a website called "Hello From Earth" to collect messages for transmission to Gliese 581d. The maximum length of the messages was 160 characters, and they were restricted to the English language. In total, 25,880 messages were collected from 195 countries around the world. The messages were transmitted from the DSS-43 70 m radio telescope at the Canberra Deep Space Communication Complex at Tidbinbilla, Australia on the 28th of August, 2009

 

[RisingFury]

i wish that habitable planet was captured by our Sun....

What's wrong with Earth? Not habitable enough for ya?

 

[T.Neo]

I'm sure there are plenty of other things to do in the meantime.

Yes, like travel there anyway in a fraction of the time. :rofl:

So much has happened in such a small period of time, that it makes the 1.3 milion years seem like an eternity.

It is only 6.5 times 200 000 years...

It should be noted that Homo Sapiens has changed negligibly in the last 200 000 years, and Homo has not changed much in a far longer period of time (Homo Erectus first appeared some 1.9 to 1.3 million years ago, and was not radically different from H. Sapiens). And while the last 200 000 years did see ethnic distinctions form as people adapted to their local environments, modern civilisation removes a lot of these environmental factors, even to a lesser degree in other environments across space.

And then there is the fact that modern medicine and a lack of predators or adverse survival situations (in developed societies) essentially eliminates natural selection.

Considering the fact that many species are roughly the same after more than a million years of existence (the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybodus"]Hybodus[/ame] genus existed from the late Permian to the early Cretaceous, for example), and that there are factors that prevent a lot of the evolutionary driving forces in humans, it is almost certain that biologically, modern humans could exist more than a million years from now.

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The planet you are thinking of is Gliese 581 d, orbiting the star Gliese 581, 20 light years away located at 15h19m27s, -07°43′19″. It has a mass 5.6 times that of Earth, the planet is classified as a super-Earth. It is located inside the Gelise 581 habitable zone.

It is located on the outer edge of the habitable zone.

Also, that is its minimum mass; its actual mass could be quite a bit larger. Based on known orbits and calculations, it is thought that the system would be unstable if the planets were above a certain mass- the upper mass bound for Gliese 581 d is thus 11 Earth masses, if the minimum mass is only 5.6 Earth masses.

The planet could also be covered in an ocean tens or hundreds of kilometers thick, or could even be a 'mini gas giant'.

In October 2008, members of the networking website Bebo beamed "A Message From Earth", a high-power transmission at Gliese 581, using the RT-70 radio telescope belonging to the National Space Agency of Ukraine. This transmission is due to arrive in the Gliese 581 system's vicinity by the year 2029; the earliest possible arrival for a response, should there be one, would be in 2049.

The contents of that message are meaningless, since without the knowledge of how to decode the message it would sound like a gibberish series of numbers- the hope for alien contact lies only in the idea that someone might notice the repeating patterns in the signal, if nothing else.

Regarding Gliese 581 d, it is quite possible that the most advanced life there- if there is any- is most likely algal scum, which doesn't have an amazing track record of building radio recievers. :dry:

 

[Scav]

Regarding Gliese 581 d, it is quite possible that the most advanced life there- if there is any- is most likely algal scum, which doesn't have an amazing track record of building radio recievers. :dry:

That would make trading commodities with them difficult.