Request Any SLS and Orion MPCV in development?

The only way to move the arm is to bolt it to a different place on the tower and move all the GSE to a different level. This is what they did with the CAA on the tower for Skylab. It provided access to the work shop while at the pad.

skylab-S73-25140.jpg


There's no need for any lightning masts on the ML as 39B already has three 180 m tall lightning towers.

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RonDVouz said:
In fact, looking at this tower picture again.....I believe the umbiliculs are on rails. Perhaps the access arms are too.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24122088/SLS/SLS Block 1 Launch Pad-39B - Release annotated.jpg
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Not on rails. Those brackets are called "Hinge Columns" and supports the hinges for the arms. Dates back to the Saturn V Launcher Umbilical Tower.

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LC-39B Orbiter Access Arm being removed, note the Hinge Columns that the arm's hinge mechanism is attached: http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/images/large/2009-3799.jpg
 
On the swing arms. Should they be able to swing from one side of the tower to the other without hitting the ship?

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I know on the "real" on. They can bolt on the arms where needed. Although that is doable in Orbiter by using attachments controlling the arms would mean switching to each arm vessel.

Within reason. I thing I will make the arms move up and down. You may have to move those side access rails.

It looks like the vertical stablier can expand and contract to fit the vessel

I am working on a pop up window so you press the Launch button. Swing arms move away if not already and release the vessel


On the upper stage. 2 or 4 thrusters?
2
http://cdn.phys.org/newman/gfx/news/hires/2012/2-spacelaunchs.jpg

4
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System[/ame]
 
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That'd be superb John. That way we get the look and functionality of the new LUT, with the bonus of it "looking right" if we use our own rockets.

The forever 12 year old inside me is snickering saying "You said poop".
 
Fixed that. I hope to have something done today or so.

I am not sure about the crawler though. If one is out there. Why make another?
 
and confused:
Looking at this:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/11/nasa-sls-mobile-launcher-umbilical-plans/
it shows the the csi arm mounted on the right and swings to the left so you have access to the left side.
But on the launch the arm is all the way to left. Wouldn't it hit the rocket?



The forward skirt one look like it could swing either way and clear the vessel.

Yes it loaded. so 4 thrusters
 
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gattispilot said:
and confused:
Looking at this:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/11/nasa-sls-mobile-launcher-umbilical-plans/
it shows the the csi arm mounted on the right and swings to the left so you have access to the left side.
But on the launch the arm is all the way to left. Wouldn't it hit the rocket?



The forward skirt one look like it could swing either way and clear the vessel.

Yes it loaded. so 4 thrusters
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Well, the SLS design changed quite a lot in the last few years. It's possible that is simply a older concept/version. Note the differences in the pictures below.

sls-1.jpg


flag_sls_dac_2_70t_0.jpg


The latest animation might also be a good reference, since it shows how everything moves and works.

The CSI umbilical appears to lie flat against the tower as the SLS lifts off.

I can't tell which way the CSFSU goes.
 
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Ok Well that muddy the waters. What is the arm it looks fixed between the 2 side access rails below the ISPC?

That might be the vertical stabilizer but I don't see the CSI. I see one swing arm on the small section
 
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gattispilot said:
Ok Well that muddy the waters. What is the arm it looks fixed between the 2 side access rails below the ISPC?

That might be the vertical stabilizer but I don't see the CSI. I see one swing arm on the small section
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Are you referring to the truss directly below the ISPC? If so, that is the vertical stabilizer. The small white object below it is for it is the small bar below the main truss.

Z13.jpg


The CSI can't be seen because the core and the boosters are covering it. However, if you look near the nosecap of the closest SRB, you can see its hinge system.
 
Thanks. I thought so.

But on this page that is the CSfwd skirt not the vertical stab. But that means the CSfwd tilts down
 
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gattispilot said:
Thanks. I thought so.

But on this page that is the CSfwd skirt not the vertical stab. But that means the CSfwd tilts down
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No, it rotates towards the tower. What you see there is an early version dated July 12 2012. Note the date of the article, November 5 2012, nearly 2 years ago. Back then the CSFSU was only under study, not yet added to the baseline ML design.

Things have definitely progressed and been refined since then. What you must understand about programs is that things will change as the design(s) mature and everything moves closer to actual fabrication. The actual design freezes occur near the Preliminary Design Review (PDR) and then only small changes will occur prior to Critical Design Review (CDR).
 
Ok Would you say that both CSi and CSFWD rotate. And both can rotate from side to side without hitting the rocket?
 
gattispilot said:
Ok Would you say that both CSi and CSFWD rotate. And both can rotate from side to side without hitting the rocket?
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They rotate towards the tower as that's where the latch mechanism is. The latch mechanism keeps the arm from moving around during lift-off and keeps it steady. In this retracted position they along with the umbilicals they're equipped with is sprayed with water to prevent damage as the vehicle exhaust passes by. Once again, dates back to the Saturn V.
 
I the annotated drawing it shows them away from the tower.

I think I will have 2 CSI and CSFWD rotate from that side but be able to swing to theother side. Because of the variety of craft they will be able to connect. I think I can have the red/black hoses just go 90 degrees out from the frame. So they could connect to one side.
 
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DaveS said:
NASA's thinking for SLS Upper Stage (document from 2012, but the final stage design thinking is close to the one in the document): http://hdl.handle.net/2060/20130013953
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They now call it the Exploration Upper Stage, or EUS.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_Upper_Stage"]Exploration Upper Stage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

The interim upper stage will be the the Delta Cryogenic Upper Stage.
 
Ok I have run into a coding issue.
On the left is what the dialogue box looks like.
on the right is what I get in orbiter. See the green arrow and extra box?
SLSCONTROLS_zps629c2a99.jpg


Code: 
BOOL CALLBACK SLSTOWER_DlgProc(HWND hWnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM lParam)
{
	SLSTOWER *sts = (uMsg == WM_INITDIALOG ? (SLSTOWER*)lParam : (SLSTOWER*)oapiGetDialogContext(hWnd));
	// pointer to vessel instance was passed as dialog context

	switch (uMsg) {
	case WM_COMMAND:
		switch (LOWORD(wParam)) {
		case IDCANCEL:
			oapiCloseDialog(hWnd);
			return TRUE;
			//case IDC_PLBAYOP:
			//	sts->plop->OpenDialog();
			//	break;
		
			oapiOpenDialogEx(g_Param.hDLL, IDD_RMS, RMS_DlgProc1, DLG_CAPTIONCLOSE, sts);
			
		}
		break;
	}
	return oapiDefDialogProc(hWnd, uMsg, wParam, lParam);
}

what I want is when you press the space it opens that box.
Code: 
if (key == OAPI_KEY_SPACE)
	{
		// open RMS control dialog
		oapiOpenDialogEx(g_Param.hDLL, IDD_RMS, SLSTOWER_DlgProc, DLG_CAPTIONCLOSE, this);
		return 1;
	}

Fixed: Animations will be controlled by Dialogue window
 
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