News UK mini-Ice Age

[Suzy]

Satellite photo of UK. Minus −45°C in parts of USA. In Melbourne it will get to +41°C on Monday. Where would you rather be? :hmm:

 

[JamesG]

Somewhere in the middle?

 

[PhantomCruiser]

I enjoyed my time visiting there last week, but I'm glad I left when I did...

 

[n72.75]

The warmest it will get tomorrow where I am is -15°.

Plus, it's been snowing for 2 months straight.

 

[Artlav]

Singapore.
+30C, fresh air, sunny thunderstorms.

Maybe you should swap islands for the snowlidays?

 

[Urwumpe]

We have "The Daisy after tomorrow here"...a lot of panic about a low pressure system, and so far only minimal snowfall, but the expected wind speeds. Maybe the meteorologists are a bit sensible today.

 

[jedidia]

Another day not needing to light the stove... around 15 C + here (it's supposed to be around -10 to -15 at this time). Frequent rainfall and thunderstorms (thunderstorms in freaking january! I never saw one before in january over here) I guess the guys down in Mostar can get their short sleeves out today...

Something is seriously weird this winter. Is there any explanation out why wheather is behaving so weird this winter? (yes, I know, Saint Peter is getting senile, but apart from that?)

 

[tl8]

Would you believe me if I said Global Warming?

I know it isn't getting hotter at that part of the world but remember the butterfly effect.

 

[Urwumpe]

Would you believe me if I said Global Warming?

I still remember the stories about the winter of 1978/1979 in Germany, mostly because it was my first winter and it was extreme. While everywhere else in Germany was above zero, Northern Germany got the result of adding -47°C air with Mediterranean moist air. We had 10 bft winds and lots of snow in a few hours. was the only official snow catastrophe in northern German history.

 

[streb2001]

Something is seriously weird this winter. Is there any explanation out why wheather is behaving so weird this winter? (yes, I know, Saint Peter is getting senile, but apart from that?)

The atlantic jet stream is tracking about 500 miles further south of its usual winter location. This is why it is "arctic" in the UK and stormy on continental Europe. Why? Because the atmosphere is a chaotic system.

People really need to understand the difference between "climate" and "weather".

 

[garyw]

Would you believe me if I said Global Warming?

When people mentioned this to me earlier in the week I pointed out that we had a colder and longer winter in 1963. However, towards the end of the week we saw record low temperatures in Nortern Scotland so I'm now mor eopen to the fact that *Something* might be going on. I'm still not convinced its global warming but maybe the start of a new period for Snowball Earth is this part of the world?

 

[Cerebus]

To put the present winter weather in perspective, it's not abnormally cold, nor extended in duration, it's merely colder than the present average, it's nowhere near the 'little ice-age' of the 16th to 19th centuries, nor is it as cold as 1963, which is pretty much the benchmark for cold winters in the UK.

It may become as severe as 1963, if we see lower temperatures, ( lowest recorded temperature in the UK -27c, so far this winter the lowest is a balmy -22c), and if the snow lasts into mid february, however even this wouldn't compare to the extended cold period of the little ice age, since 2010 is a blip in an observed warming trend for the climate, as streb puts it, there is a difference between climate and weather

 

[JamesG]

Would you believe me if I said Global Warming?

No.

 

[Urwumpe]

A bit of winter and people talk about climate... This has nothing to do with climate at all at this point, this kind of weather is unusual, but not a new phenomena. What is climate is how often such weather happens at a place over a longer period of time. One winter is nothing, but if you would for example have stronger weather extremes more often than usual, this would be climate.

 

[Linguofreak]

Not to mention that this cold winter weather is only happening in certain places. Just because Europe and the US are having some really cold winters doesn't mean that the average temperature of the planet isn't still above normal. (Nor would exceptionally hot summers in China and Antarctica mean that average temperatures were above normal).

Suzy: What's typical at this time of year in Melbourne?

 

[cinder1992]

You've got to remember that earth is a living organism... of sorts. the cold winters are an attempt at fighting off an infection, just as your immune system would. the infection is the Co2 in the atmosphere, and it's being caused by cancer... of sorts. you can work out what the cancer is.

 

[Ghostrider]

you can work out what the cancer is.

Are you sure it's cancer? Have you run a fine-needle biopsy on that tissue sample? What about a blood protein count? What are the CA 125 levels?

One thing is certain: it's not lupus. It's never lupus.

/me waves his walking stick and walks away.

 

[hnsptr]

This winter is one of the most beautiful snowy winters I have seen for about 25 years here And, with due respect, I do not care if there are alarmists who believe the earth has an everage temperature that differs by 0,somewhat° of what they believe a "normal" global everage temperature should be.

the cold winters are an attempt at fighting off an infection, just as your immune system would. the infection is the Co2 in the atmosphere, and it's being caused by cancer

The cold winters are the result of the seasonal variations due to the earths movement around the sun, its axis, and meteorological events like Daisy which is a cyclone and no attempt at fighting off an infection. Daisy, cold winters, ice ages, and warming periods are not the result of humans. Such things existed before there was any sign of humans.

Each era needs its big tale. And the climate change scare is the ideal religious tale of our current era. The planet is endangered... We are culprits or cancer... We need a catharsis... The civilization will perish... :blahblah: Those are the old pictures of the bible promises. Fire, draught, cataclsym. The human is a child of those disasters. It is comparable with some buddhistic karma as well: why become some humans ill? Of course because they have done something bad in their previous lives... A lot of humans on the planet are traumatised. Really. And today we interpret natural disasters and observable and predicted climate changes as man-made. We have done something bad because humans always do something bad. Sin. Almost a deadly sin. But that's a big fallacy. There was always huge natural disasters in history. Drought, extinction of species etc.

 

[Urwumpe]

Gaianism sucks, but their female followers also do. *smirks* :hide:

 

[Andy44]

Would you believe me if I said Global Warming?

Short answer? No.:tiphat: