OHM Soyuz 7K series

[Przemek77]

I downloaded previous version of "7K" with "old" VC (from topic "Addon Development") - I must say that old version of Soyuz VC is IMHO more "ergonomic" than the actual, but actual is better looking.... hmmmm....
Is any chance to retexture old version of VC keeping the old mesh?

 

[4throck]

No. Actually the mesh is just a 360º image projected onto a cube
The old panorama had a better viewpoint, and made it easy to draw a cleaned up panel.
The current panorama is better, but the viewing position is worse regarding the periscope.

My opinion on this is that, because the VC has no specific functionality, the best looking image should be used. Of course, if someday someone wants to code a functioning VC, it should be redone in full 3D.

Another thing:

I've received a nice scenario for Soyuz 40, by Emil Catalin Halmagean. This is interesting because we has got accurate data from Dumitru Dorin Prunariu, the first Romanian to fly in space on that mission.
The thing is that for that mission, we need a Soyuz T docked to Salyut6... I personally wouldn't like to see a modern Soyuz there, but let's see what Emil thinks.
I'm bringing this up because perhaps we can ask for permission to use the Soyuz TMA meshes and simply reconfigure and repaint them as Soyuz T ...

 

[Przemek77]

Another thing:

I've received a nice scenario for Soyuz 40, by Emil Catalin Halmagean. This is interesting because we has got accurate data from Dumitru Dorin Prunariu, the first Romanian to fly in space on that mission.
The thing is that for that mission, we need a Soyuz T docked to Salyut6... I personally wouldn't like to see a modern Soyuz there, but let's see what Emil thinks.
I'm bringing this up because perhaps we can ask for permission to use the Soyuz TMA meshes and simply reconfigure and repaint them as Soyuz T ...

Emil wrote to me too
I reworked his scn, that the RInc is ~0.00 - and simulation of spaceflight of 1st romanian cosmonaut will be done

 

[castorp]

i too heard from emil and happily gave permission for use of the meshes.
'nice to see everything so well-along here!
'still have the -tm mesh conversion on the workbench and bang away at that damn docking collar every so often as time permits. 'come summer should allow for more mesh-making time! ('also would like to finish up my salyut-3 mesh and possibly do a salyut-6 to be consistent with the current group of models.)
cheers,
hc

 

[4throck]

Emil wrote to me too
I reworked his scn, that the RInc is ~0.00 - and simulation of spaceflight of 1st romanian cosmonaut will be done

OK. Emil sent me a scn but I'm confused if that is the corrected version you mention OR the version that needed corrections... could you simply post the corrected scn here so that I can sort it out?

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'come summer should allow for more mesh-making time! ('also would like to finish up my salyut-3 mesh and possibly do a salyut-6 to be consistent with the current group of models.)
cheers,
hc

In my humble opinion Salyut 6 already exists, so I'd concentrate on Salyut 3 or 7 , Soyuz T or Almaz . Also, the VK capsule would be lot's of fun simulate.

 

[Przemek77]

I have done Soyuz 40 scenario (it needed 2 corrections). It is final version, Emil accepted it.

 

[4throck]

Ok, got the file. Will write a small description and update the 7K addon ASAP.

 

[jamatwinter]

interior

does this soyuz have an interior design?
i havnt downloaded it yet, (but i will), and i was wondering if you needed some kind of design for making an interior if you havnt made one.
i'l attatch the designs.
sos if youve made one already.
i have more diagrams, if you need them
ty

 

[indonesianorbinaut]

does this soyuz have an interior design?
i havnt downloaded it yet, (but i will), and i was wondering if you needed some kind of design for making an interior if you havnt made one.
i'l attatch the designs.
sos if youve made one already.
i have more diagrams, if you need them
ty

this soyuz just have interior just in descent module

 

[diogom]

jamatwinter,
Thanks for the help! As indonesianorbinaut said, only the SA has an interior. The BO has no interior yet, as I highly doubt there's a good 360º pic of its interiors. Only option would be a 3d interior, or travelling to Russia to take a pic inside the mock-ups :lol:.

 

[Thorton]

I can hardly believe that you can find 7k BO in which you could get in to make 360 deg panorama. I've been recently in National Cosmonautics Museum in Moscow at took few stills of BO though the protective glass, cant say however what exactly BO was 7k or 7k-T.
If you need this stills i can send them to you by mail.

 

[diogom]

Yes, please :tiphat: Maybe these could help. I'll PM you my email.

 

[4throck]

I'd also like to get my hands on those
No promises, my personal and professional life are taking a lot of time (actually I'm very busy doing heritage modeling) BUT even with limited coverage perhaps a partial panorama will do.

Diogo, PM me and let's see what can be done.

 

[diogom]

Ok, I thought of a solution to the payloads problem: maybe if set the SA as the core vessel, instead of the PAO, it might work. Or inverse the whole thing, and the BO stays as core vessel. I'll test it, and update on the results later.

 

[diogom]

A VC for the BO is in discussion, thanks to Thorton's great pictures :thumbup:.

 

[4throck]

Here's a small resolution version of Thorton's pictures, assembled for maximum coverage.

The viewpoint is actually from outside the spacecraft, so it will not work for a VC.

Don't forget the Orbiter will draw the cockpit with the same camera "forward" orientation as the external view. In this case, we would be facing the docking port and hatch (top in the image?) as a circular feature right in front of us. This is very different from the image point of view that is towards the right viewport.

 

[diogom]

Well, the search goes on... :lol: Nice work, BTW. Yeah, that's the hatch and docking port.

 

[4throck]

Well, a photographer with a long arm would solve the problem!
Just extent your hand it into the the BO as far as possible and take photos in all directions!
:thumbup:

Now back to the point.
I've found this image:

This is closer to what's needed. Of course, there's an astronaut on the photo, so we can't use THIS image, but the camera is placed on the right location.

 

[diogom]

Just noticed this made its way into the OHM release:
Some of the meshes for the Soyuz still use the old coulour. By that, I mean, for example, in the Soyuz-T, though the BO has the correct darker colour, you can notice that the PAO and SA still have the lighter colour. This is nothing important, but can easily be fixed, by doing this:

Open the following meshes with a text editor: T_PAO ; T_BO_retract ; OK_thermal1 ; OK_thermal4 - and scroll down to the bottom, in the materials part. Where it says "MATERIAL servshade", delete the values below and replace them with these:

0.467 0.447 0.467 1.000
0.467 0.447 0.467 1.000
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
0 0 0 1

On the same meshes, plus: OK_thermal2 ; OK_thermal3 ; OK_thermal5 ; OK_thermal6 ; OK_thermal7 ; OK_thermal8 - scroll down to the bottom too, and where it says "MATERIAL cccpserv", delete the values under it and replace them with:

0.894 0.878 0.894 1.000
0.894 0.878 0.894 1.000
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
0 0 0 1

For now, it's just a quick fix, to be fixed in the file uploaded to OHM. Also, I still haven't checked the other Soyuz versions (T-AF;OK;OKS) so if you notice the same in these, let me know. :tiphat:

 

[4throck]

Addon updated on OH with the mesh material fixes.